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Floyd Mayweather Jr has beaten 15 world champions
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Originally posted by puga View Postyou put shamba mitchell for floyd's did'nt you ?....one who got destroyed by tsu for the 2nd time before floyd fought him..and erik>>>>>>shamba by far....hatton was a paper champ at 147, thats why his win to collazo was controversial, thats where floyd fought him..tho he was the lineal cahmp at 140 when pac beat him, in 2 rounds..lol..again floyd fighting jmm at ww was a ****in joke....jmm was to pac what castilllo was was to floyd!...big deal!
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People sometimes just don't understand. No doubt Floyd is an outstanding boxer, but not everybody sees it that way because they hate his guts. I don't blame them because this is the road Floyd has chosen. He wanted money more than recognition. Floyd said it himself that he don't care about the legacy. So Floyd fans just stop it, people know about how great a boxer Floyd is, they just don't want to let you know. Because they get a laugh at you all getting pissed about it.
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Originally posted by FootWork777 View PostNo *******, Floyd proved he was the better fighter by beating Castillo decisively, Pac has yet to do that with JMM. What the hell are you talking about?
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Originally posted by infamous larryx View Postlast 3 fightss??
hatton-undefeated linear 140 champ,former wba ww champ..p4p top 5
jmm-tune up-lightweight chamo,arguably beat manny.#2 p4p
shane-manny refused to fight him..wba ww champ.top 3 ww.p4p#3..
whats wrong here chups??
mannys last 3 fights
-cotto at 145 catchweight-coming off of terrible perfomances
clottey-coming off of a loss
margo-coming off of a suspension and yet another catchweight
I don't see why anybody hates Mayweather for his work inside the ring, the guy is the outstanding fighter of his generation.
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Originally posted by puga View Postnot in the first fight....lol.....jmm kissed the canvass how many times vs pac at his comfortable weight?.......lol....and a past prime hoya lost to floyd by SD , do you know what pac did to him?...lol
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Originally posted by JK1700 View PostYour argument is flawed for several reasons.
1. The Morales wins cannot be described as "great" in any sense. This is because Morales was completely dominated by Zahir Raheem in the fight prior. Losing every round. He was clearly finished but Pacquiao never showed any interest in fighting the winner and instead picked Morales a division below where Raheem gave him a boxing lesson. What's even more interesting about the fight is that it was turning out exactly the same as the first one until Erik's legs gave out from the weight drain. How that can be called a "great win" is beyond me.
2. People say "World champion doesnt mean the best" but it's the most clear identification of a fighter's skill level. I don't know any other fighter who has beaten 15 world champions right now. Larios and Solis are both average fighters. Larios had to move up 2 divisions to face Pacquiao and was KO'd in 3rounds in his previous fight by Israel Vasquez. Solis still hasnt won a belt.
3. Hatton's IBO belt may have counted as a "world title" but in reality nobody takes the IBO titles seriously. The WBC belts are the most important. No matter how you try and twist the situation, Floyd has beaten 6 more world champions. And it should be 7 because Marquez clearly beat Pacquiao in the second fight.
"Oh......we don't even count that one" - James Toney
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Originally posted by Chups View PostThe later half of Floyd's career is embarrassing. Just look at the competition after Jose Luis Castillo. Even more so....his last 3 fights.
An undefeated Hatton. The champ (ODLH) at 154 and SSM. What's so embarrassing about that?? The bookmakers certainly thought these contests were much more competitive than Pac vs Clottey vs Margarito vs Cotto.
sportsbooks paying north of $6.00 on Clottey and MArgo against Pac. Cotto was paying $4.50-$5.00. Hatton, SSM and ODLH were not this wide against Floyd. So the pro's disagree with your assessment.
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