Comments Thread For: Juanma-Caballero Explodes: Brawl Erupts After Weigh-In

[Pelencho]

Terrible stuff

from what i've seen pelenchin is a kind man


i hope he wasnt hit hard
no need for that ****

at the same time he should be a bit more respectful if he was really heading to talk to juanma with a head full of steam prior to a big fight like this

he wasnt hit hard and he was only mouthing at juanma from the crowd. a lot built up steam since he has never been able to get juanma to respond to him, but it was far from being anything over the line. especially by boxing standards

[Pelencho]

sorry for the triple post. jeez, the way this is growing, by tomorrow caballero is going to be in a coma after he was beat down by a huge gang of puerto ricans. but it gives me some good stuff to work with for the website. time to have fun with juanma. he isnt man enough to stand up for himself, so i am gonna come up with **** to embarrass him even more than he already has been

[GRUSTLER]

I believe him. Caballero came 1 deep to call Juanma out.
I thought it was funny when he said that if he wanted
beef he would have brought his crew. Which is real talk.
All the man wants to do is fight.

[prsi]

He could of brought his crew if he really wanted beef, I agree but then again I can also understand why he got punched. I think Lopez's team didn't want Lopez to lose his mind before fighting Marquez.

Agreed on the bold. Why should they even let Juanma entertain this clown when Juanman is about to have his biggest payday of his career?

Lol. Anybody who doesn't think Lopez's team got out of line with that is kidding themselves. This makes Lopez look even more like a pussy. Caballero is the most avoided fighter in the world bar none.

Out of line?? What did you expect. Here comes a guy that has called Juanma so many names walking into a crowd that according to the number was 3 to 1 in favor of Juanma. Caba is lucky that it didn't get worst. he went to play with fire and he got burned.

Kinda ****ty to do it before the fight. I understand coming in the ring after the fight. But don't go up there before and steal any shine from the fighters about to do their business in the ring tomorrow. He shoulda waited until JuanMa wins tomorrow or if I guess.

Agreed.

If Lopez and Caballero actually do end up fighting (doubt it), I could just imagine how things are going to get so heated in press conferences and stuff lol. This time however, I hope Cab comes with back up since you have a WW and a HW trying to beat up a 126 pound boxer.

Agreed, they already have a build up for the fight but it is all about business and Caba needs to forget about getting a 50/50 split with guys like Juanma and Gamboa. Although Caba is clearly on their level and can probably beat one or both of them moneywise he brings nothing so he has to accept a 60/40 or less to fight them. Anything else is pricing himself out of the opportunity and that happened twice already.

Lol caba got rocked no1 knows who he is so they did there job caba and his ppl would have got beat up as well if you want to fight lopez just stop asking for 50/50 dum ass

exactly

It's about what the promoter wants. What generates the most money. Cab can't sell out his own family. IT'S ABOUT MONEY!!!!

Exactly

Juanma's such a pussy. He needs one of his goons do deal with Caba.



Not surprising though, he's already ducked him a million times, whats one more gonna hurt?

What did you expect Juanma to get hurt going after this clown when he is about to make the biggest money of his career the next day. He'll probably make more money tomorrow than what Caba has made his whole career.

a lot of misinformation in here. i posted an inteview from both pelenchin and jeff at www.celestinocaballero.com.

- only some little guy punched pelenchin, and it was to the back of the head and well short of being clean. the big guy was holding pelenchin to keep them apart and that is why he even got hit at all

- pelenchin wasnt "busted up"

- pelenchin wanted to bring his Panamanian crew? his panamanian crew here consists of my wife, 2 of her friends, and some old ladies. i doub they would have helped much.

If this is true Caballero is more ****** than I thought. Why would you take your friends wife and some old ladies to a hostil atmosphere, (hostil because it has been Caballero himself that created the hostilities for month or years already), knowing that the majority of the people there will will be on the other man's side and then from there start screaming at the man in front of a crowd that has paid hundreds of dollars to see him? And by the way with all the things that Caballero has said in the past I really doubt that he went in peace and was yelling kind word towards Juanma.
You do not bring your friends wife or older people to these type of situations that's how ****** Caballero is, putting at risk YOUR family just because he wanted to show off.
If Caballero really want's the fight and if Juanma wins today, go to the post fight conference with a contract signed accepting 35% of the purse and then you can talk or you want, but saying that you want to fight somebody and then ask for x amount of money that you are not worth it's just plain ******.

PS
I edited this post because pelencho corrected me saying that it was pelencho's wife there, not Caballero's but the rest still applies.

[Pelencho]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^what are you talking about? i said MY wife. and what i meant is that pelenchin does not have a crew here. there arent exactly tons of panamanians here in vegas. the ones that are here are not ezactly the type that are apt to throw down. they are more likely to pick up their kids in mini vans or cook soup. and none of them were there. it was only pelenchin w/ jeff and jt. i was saying that pelenchin didnt say that and the author of the article either cant translate worth a damn or made it up.

also, for those saying he shouldnt have been there. why? a big guy in his division is at a weigh and and he shouldnt go? for one thing, pelenchin was ALSO there because he is friends with Mickey Bey who is on that card. And he wasnt yelling at juanma. as the interview said, he made a few gestures after the weigh in and that is when the little dude went all ape ****

and i wont even bother to respond to the last part because that has been beat to death. there was never a contract offer made to pelenchin for that fight. ever

[mariobrotherpr]

he wasnt hit hard and he was only mouthing at juanma from the crowd. a lot built up steam since he has never been able to get juanma to respond to him, but it was far from being anything over the line. especially by boxing standards

LIES

Juanma did respond to him. He told him that, instead of mouthing off, his team should negotiate with Bob Arum. That Bob Arum also told Caballero that. And that since he said he was willing to pay the sanction fees and fight in Puerto Rico, let him do that.

Simple. Common sense.

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[Del Coqui]

According to a PR newspaper it was welterweight prospect Jonathan Gonzalez who first threw a punch at him and then HW Victor Bisbal tried to go after Caballero.

NO, it was amateur Jonathan Gonzalez, LOL, he's about 5' tall and weighs about 115

[Pelencho]

oh yes, bob arum said it, so it must be true. bob would never lie. anyway, like i said, not getting into that. it has been done to death. bottom line is this. no matter if celestino or juanma are lying, if someone had talked such **** about me for so long, i would get the fight made period. nobody would make me look like a ***** like that repeatedly unless i was afraid i couldnt take him. i sure as hell wouldnt tell him to go talk to my uncle. if puerto ricans are so badass, be a man and step up. use the money excuse all you want, but it isnt exactly like caballero would bring him a smaller payday than the other guys he has fought. so the bottom line is juanma is more worried about padding his record than he is about taking on legitimate threats. and i am american, but when i see him continually get made to look like a *****, it makes me think that maybe that is the way all puerto ricans are

[Del Coqui]

I still dont get why Caballero keeps giving the impression he needs Juanma. He is the more accomplished fighter of the two. Why not go after Chris John or Marquez in the first place?

[Pelencho]

NO, it was amateur Jonathan Gonzalez, LOL, he's about 5' tall and weighs about 115

yea, jeff and pelenchin both said some little dude. but they had no idea if it was a fighter or not. and that is one of the reasons pelenchin was a little reluctant to go after him.