power is not indicated by ko percentages

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  • dj Ramos
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    #51
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    You're right Paulie and Calderon have some great power
    i was just about to write this lmaoooo

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    • deanrw
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      #52
      Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
      Also, how many one punch KO's, have actually come from a guy being stunned, unbeknown to the people watching, only for him to get knocked out with the next punch? that would not qualify as a one punch KO.

      I think Moorer said he was out on his feet the punch before Foreman knocked him out.
      That is true also. That would make it impossible to determine as even one punch guys, generally do not swing for the fences with every punch. They usually like to test their ability to land first and most guys who get starched out generally are softened up some first.

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        #53
        Jermaine Taylor could hit harder than what most give hm credit for. He had Pavlik and Froch at the brink of lala land, and those two are well known for their durability.

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          #54
          Originally posted by deanrw
          That is true also. That would make it impossible to determine as even one punch guys, generally do not swing for the fences with every punch. They usually like to test their ability to land first and most guys who get starched out generally are softened up some first.
          Originally posted by deanrw
          Jermaine Taylor could hit harder than what most give hm credit for. He had Pavlik and Froch at the brink of lala land, and those two are well known for their durability.
          Agree on both counts.

          I think Taylor had underrated power, but because of his technique, that bow and arrow right hand he throw, that maybe he lost power somewhat, or maybe they could brace for impact when they saw it?

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            #55
            Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
            Agree on both counts.

            I think Taylor had underrated power, but because of his technique, that bow and arrow right hand he throw, that maybe he lost power somewhat, or maybe they could brace for impact when they saw it?
            bing..exactly..if taylor wouldve shortened up that right hand he'd connect alot more and with more power

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              #56
              It's based on who they hurt and/or KO. A man can run through so so competition and still not be regarded as a legitimate KO puncher because the guys he stops aren't anything special. True KO power is established at the top level for the most part. Those guys don't stop people on their feet or force corner stoppages, they lay their opponents out for the count. True blue power punchers are rare.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                Agree on both counts.

                I think Taylor had underrated power, but because of his technique, that bow and arrow right hand he throw, that maybe he lost power somewhat, or maybe they could brace for impact when they saw it?
                Yeah he wound up that right hand, it made it predictable but man was it sweet to watch. He also was not a smart finisher and had stamina issues. if he could have fixed those very fixable traits, who knows how far he could have gone. He could have still been a champ and have an 80-90% KO ratio to make it all look sweeter. It goes to show it does not take much to alter destiny.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by infamous larryx
                  bing..exactly..if taylor wouldve shortened up that right hand he'd connect alot more and with more power

                  Taylor had tons of power Larry. He just gave opponents an opportunity to parry the shot or brace for it. He will always be one of my favs, I still wonder how far he could have gone with just the slightest of tweaking.

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                  • Rolaz
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                    #59
                    A boxing record is a very important stats for any boxers,

                    if KO/TKO is not an indication of power then,

                    what does it take for any boxer to have power punches?

                    How can you explain Smoking Joe & Mike Tyson lacking in height and reach, knocking down their taller and heavier opponents?

                    or the amazing KO/TKO record of the the late Edwin Valero?

                    How can you explain Roach saying "He can't pull the trigger"
                    Does that mean he doesn't have power punches no more?

                    The Thread isn't complete in explaining the POWER.

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                    • infamous larryx
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by deanrw
                      Taylor had tons of power Larry. He just gave opponents an opportunity to parry the shot or brace for it. He will always be one of my favs, I still wonder how far he could have gone with just the slightest of tweaking.
                      taylor was a power house and very athletic..i hated him for beating hopkins..lol soon as i came around to liking him he fell off...

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