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  • Reloaded
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    #81
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Ok say your point? That Texas changed their rule for Pac, just like Nevada did for Cotto? A rule that I personally didn't mind for Cotto so why would I mind for Pac. Especially since Marg wanted it.

    That I don't know what the size of the ring is going to be for Pac-Marg. Eaner might no, but I don't. However, the size of the ring was 24x24 for Pac-Clottey which nobody had a problem with.

    That the fight is at a catch-weight for a vacant title that is BS? Yes, it is and is crap. the WBC is just as fault as Manny. But, we all know what the WBC is after. Shame for Pac to try and cheat history.

    This is really the only thing that TS discussed in the OP. So WTF is the point that I am not addressing?

    What lame assumptions did I make? That you don't know what you're talking about? Yes, you don't cuz your post proved it. You honestly do not know my opinion nor my stands with the whole OST and about Floyd. Because, if you did you wouldn't make such a ****** assumption.
    You want my point , should have been obvious Ive said what it is 3 times , but seeing it went over your head into confusionville , I,ll will keep it short .

    Manny has been one of the most manipulating fighters in history , manipulating as in , forcing demands on his opponents many of which give him an advantage ,,, true or false ?

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      #82
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      Its a WBC title isnt it ? are fighters fighting for their belts SUPPOSED to do things under their rules ? , its not about right or wrong I dont even know why you throw right or wrong , its about actions and facts and just points out another occassion where Manny changes the rules .
      are you seriously talking about the WBC? The same organization that had ray leonard fight for a super middleweight title and a light heavy title in a single fight? come on bro, we all know this title is a paper title and might as well be a non-title fight. the WBC is a joke.

      and how is manny changing the rule? I want to read an article or see a video where someone said manny demanded this as 8oz fight. All we know is that BOTH margarito and pac wanted 8oz gloves. Who's to say the WBC didn't assume that as well? I'm sure they knew going into this months ago this would be 8oz gloves.

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        #83
        if the ring is 24 by 24 then tony has no chance

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          #84
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          You want my point , should have been obvious Ive said what it is 3 times , but seeing it went over your head into confusionville , I,ll will keep it short .

          Manny has been one of the most manipulating fighters in history , manipulating as in , forcing demands on his opponents many of which give him an advantage ,,, true or false ?
          Like what kind of advantage?

          Who is to say 80z gives him an advantage? Why wouldn't that give Margarito the advantage?

          What is the size for the Pac-Marg ring? 24x24 was for Pac-Clottey. It that the size of the ring for this fight as well?

          Eaner, who is part of Marg team says the 150 is more of an advantage for Marg cuz they were willing to go down to 147 now they can work with 3 extra pounds. Also moving up in weight catch-weight or not will catch up with you sooner or later. So who is to say that 150 is an advantage for Pac. We don't know how he would look at the new weight-class. But, could it be an advantage? Sure.

          What other advantages is Pac asking for Marg? The Re-hydration clause?

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            #85
            From the Texas Combative Sports Rule Book:

            Regarding ring size:

            (b) Except as specifically otherwise authorized by the executive director, rings shall meet the following:
            (1) Rings shall be square with sides not less than 16 feet or more than 24 feet inside the ropes, and the floor shall extend at least 24 inches beyond the ropes on all sides, and shall be of at least 3/4-inch material, adequately supported, and padded with ensolite or similar closed-cell foam that is at least 1-inch thick;
            Glove Size:

            (d) Contestants in all weight categories up to, and including 147 lbs, shall use eight-ounce gloves. In heavier classes, they may wear ten-ounce gloves. Female contestants may wear 10-ounce gloves.
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            So the maximum size ring allowable is 24 x 24. Fighters up to an including 147 are required to wear 8 oz, while anything beyond that they have the option to wear 10 oz.

            So what rule is being changed?

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              #86
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              are you seriously talking about the WBC? The same organization that had ray leonard fight for a super middleweight title and a light heavy title in a single fight? come on bro, we all know this title is a paper title and might as well be a non-title fight. the WBC is a joke.

              and how is manny changing the rule? I want to read an article or see a video where someone said manny demanded this as 8oz fight. All we know is that BOTH margarito and pac wanted 8oz gloves. Who's to say the WBC didn't assume that as well? I'm sure they knew going into this months ago this would be 8oz gloves.
              Natas,

              is because, is Pac. If it was another fighter it would be eh whatever... Type of response.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
                did you read your own link?

                But under a provisional rule that has been used for the past couple of years in Nevada, boxers who weighed more than the 135-pound lightweight limit had to wear 10-ounce gloves.
                actually you might be right but from I remember the rule was never changed back moreso than it being okay to use 8oz if both parties agree but when I send gloves to vegas fights usually it's 8oz so I could be very wrong

                I am asking a matchmaker I know for clarification

                apologies

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Like what kind of advantage?

                  Who is to say 80z gives him an advantage? Why wouldn't that give Margarito the advantage?

                  What is the size for the Pac-Marg ring? 24x24 was for Pac-Clottey. It that the size of the ring for this fight as well?

                  Eaner, who is part of Marg team says the 150 is more of an advantage for Marg cuz they were willing to go down to 147 now they can work with 3 extra pounds. Also moving up in weight catch-weight or not will catch up with you sooner or later. So who is to say that 150 is an advantage for Pac. We don't know how he would look at the new weight-class. But, could it be an advantage? Sure.

                  What other advantages is Pac asking for Marg? The Re-hydration clause?
                  What advantage ,,, Weight , end of story ,, got to go catch you next trip .

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by ThePrince
                    From the Texas Combative Sports Rule Book:

                    Regarding ring size:



                    Glove Size:



                    Source


                    So the maximum size ring allowable is 24 x 24. Fighters up to an including 147 are required to wear 8 oz, while anything beyond that they have the option to wear 10 oz.

                    So what rule is being changed?
                    I really don't see any....

                    Just that a vacant belt that neither deserve is being fought at a catch-weight. That is the only one really. But, the WBC deserves just as much if not more criticism for allowing that shit to begin with. But, Pac should of just said 154 or better yet had fought Bradley at 140 or JMM at 135.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Reloaded
                      What advantage ,,, Weight , end of story ,, got to go catch you next trip .
                      So "weight" is the ONLY advantage that you're talking about?

                      The way you put it made it seem much much more.

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