Comments Thread For: Roach Thinks Margarito Loaded Gloves During Sparring

[el malo]

"How's the punch" sounds really su****ious.

yup it is su****ious especially when his corner ask him that in both the cintron and cotto fights.

[WESS]

If you actually read what you just wrote you find answers to all your questions. Didn't cheat, but just attempted to cheat. Hmm, is that like attempted murder and actual murder? I mean, if I try to kill somebody and fail can I use that defense please. How do you think that's going to go over guy?

Second, you yourself make the distinction about Margarito and Team. Having already established that he attempted to cheat (which apparently is ok in your book, unless I suppose you are the guy at the receiving end) there is a direct link between that person and the conduct that is being talked about. I concede that conduct by team pac (group of people) can lead some people to question the conduct of one person of that group but it is much, much weaker than actually having a person ATTEMPT TO CHEAT AND GET CAUGHT. I repeat: HE ATTEMPTED TO CHEAT AND GOT CAUGHT!

I would love for you to lay out all the conduct of team pac which lead you to conclude that it is reasonable to assume that he uses PEDs. And, I would soooo love for you to explain why margarito decided to cheat for apparently the very first time against Mosley.

Sorry, sorry post on your behalf. Just accept Margarito for what he is (which makes me sad because I liked him very much) and move on. Stop trying to defend the indefensable.

You missed the logic behind the post guy! It's all about someone assuming something. Why can Roach assume something but not the Mayweather's? Contradicting...

As for Margarito... He IS a cheater BUT IN FACT didn't cheat but attempted to cheat. It STILL isn't actually cheating. He technically NEVER stepped into the ring and hit a fighter with loaded gloves.... there IS a difference. Both are wrong but is it so wrong to assume he cheated throughout his career? No not imo. Is it wrong to assume a fighter "that has no idea what he takes" is on something when EVERYONE around him has been involved with PEDs several times????? No its not... now get over it guy..... I NEVER said that EITHER man was guilty.. The logic is that both are assuming...

How can we not enforce the standards on Pac that everyone desperately strives to put forth on Mayweather???? Contradicting hypocrites..... You cant bash Mayweather and avoid looking at Pac with those very same eyes.... Thats the problem. If Pac asked for drug testing EVERYONE would jump on the band wagon thinking "Pacs a good guy, he's trying to clean the sport up"... lol People judge not for what the boxer can do in the ring but what they cant do outside of it. Mayweather's not the greatest person outside of it yet he is the greatest inside and people must turn to the OUTSIDE of the ring in order to hate. Its funny how it works when your the ACTING "villain" who Mayweather should get an oscar for....

But back to topic... Roach assumes and the Mayweather's assume. Eitherway you look at it, they are assuming. Who cheated more? The guy who got busted before the fight ever took place or the guy that got busted AFTER the fight? Roach and Ariza have been invloved several times with fighters being BUSTED after the fact.... Marg never cheated but was going to attempt to cheat in the ring but never made it that fare where as Roach and Ariza had fighters make it in and out of the ring on PEDS.....

Either way this doesn't change the fact that Margarito who I have NEVER liked will be stopped before 10... He is of no threat to Pac. Roach knows this. Just as he knew Hoya "with IV holes in his arm" was no threat. Just as he knew Hatton was washed up and probably on that coke. Just as he knew Cotto was damaged by a guy who he "ASSUMES" cheated yet still wanted a catchweight that he "doesnt like" (LOL). Just as he knew Clottey wouldn't do anything (reason there was no CW LOL). Yet Mosley is "too good" at several different weights. If Mosley is "too good" does that mean Mayweather is too great"?

[SuckaPunch]

yup it is su****ious especially when his corner ask him that in both the cintron and cotto fights.

any link?...........

[Brassangel]

You missed the logic behind the post guy! It's all about someone assuming something. Why can Roach assume something but not the Mayweather's? Contradicting...

As for Margarito... He IS a cheater BUT IN FACT didn't cheat but attempted to cheat. It STILL isn't actually cheating. He technically NEVER stepped into the ring and hit a fighter with loaded gloves.... there IS a difference. Both are wrong but is it so wrong to assume he cheated throughout his career? No not imo. Is it wrong to assume a fighter "that has no idea what he takes" is on something when EVERYONE around him has been involved with PEDs several times????? No its not... now get over it guy..... I NEVER said that EITHER man was guilty.. The logic is that both are assuming...

How can we not enforce the standards on Pac that everyone desperately strives to put forth on Mayweather???? Contradicting hypocrites..... You cant bash Mayweather and avoid looking at Pac with those very same eyes.... Thats the problem. If Pac asked for drug testing EVERYONE would jump on the band wagon thinking "Pacs a good guy, he's trying to clean the sport up"... lol People judge not for what the boxer can do in the ring but what they cant do outside of it. Mayweather's not the greatest person outside of it yet he is the greatest inside and people must turn to the OUTSIDE of the ring in order to hate. Its funny how it works when your the ACTING "villain" who Mayweather should get an oscar for....

But back to topic... Roach assumes and the Mayweather's assume. Eitherway you look at it, they are assuming. Who cheated more? The guy who got busted before the fight ever took place or the guy that got busted AFTER the fight? Roach and Ariza have been invloved several times with fighters being BUSTED after the fact.... Marg never cheated but was going to attempt to cheat in the ring but never made it that fare where as Roach and Ariza had fighters make it in and out of the ring on PEDS.....

Either way this doesn't change the fact that Margarito who I have NEVER liked will be stopped before 10... He is of no threat to Pac. Roach knows this. Just as he knew Hoya "with IV holes in his arm" was no threat. Just as he knew Hatton was washed up and probably on that coke. Just as he knew Cotto was damaged by a guy who he "ASSUMES" cheated yet still wanted a catchweight that he "doesnt like" (LOL). Just as he knew Clottey wouldn't do anything (reason there was no CW LOL). Yet Mosley is "too good" at several different weights. If Mosley is "too good" does that mean Mayweather is too great"?

First of all, stop. You've been smoked this entire discussion, and you are only embarrassing yourself.

Second, assuming Margarito cheated is valid, because he was caught in the act of trying to plaster-up.

Assuming Pacquiao used PED's is invalid, because he's shows no physical signs of it, and he's never been caught.

That's the difference, you moron. One was caught cheating, and the other is just an anecdote spewed by team Mayweather, who has no evidence for it ever happening.

[el malo]

any link?...........

here's cotto vs margacheato "como esta la pegada(punch)"



no link for the cintron fight, ask roach.

[WESS]

First of all, stop. You've been smoked this entire discussion, and you are only embarrassing yourself.

Second, assuming Margarito cheated is valid, because he was caught in the act of trying to plaster-up.

Assuming Pacquiao used PED's is invalid, because he's shows no physical signs of it, and he's never been caught.

That's the difference, you moron. One was caught cheating, and the other is just an anecdote spewed by team Mayweather, who has no evidence for it ever happening.

WRONG again sucka MC.... one in fact CAN "assume" he's on PEDS because the people AROUND Pac have been involved with PEDS. That is enough to assume just as Roach is assuming Margarito cheated most of his career when IN FACT nobody can prove this....

I NEVER said if it was RIGHT or WRONG.... now your embarrassing yourself trying to jump in when you are missing the logic as the other guy did....

Both parties are assuming... it doesn't matter what validates how they assume there is IN FACT a reason for BOTH parties to do so..... Now if they are right or wrong is to be determined.... Still doesnt change the fact that they are assuming based off what they THINK..... lol




If Mosley is "too good" is Mayweather too great"????????

[ChopperRead]

First of all, stop. You've been smoked this entire discussion, and you are only embarrassing yourself.

Second, assuming Margarito cheated is valid, because he was caught in the act of trying to plaster-up.

Assuming Pacquiao used PED's is invalid, because he's shows no physical signs of it, and he's never been caught.

His oversized melon is certainly a sign of HGH use.

[Cafe]

Just arrest them all right now, put them in jail.

[adp023]

The counter-argument of Pac refusing to take random blood tests is now MOOT since Pac recently agreed Mayweather's demands and Mayweather still chickened out!! I still think that no one fighter should dictate and undermine rules to any commission. Olympic-style blood testing is for amateur boxers that wear head gear, bigger gloves and fight less rounds. In my opinion, Pac should have still refused to Mayweather's demands. Let the commission establish the rules, NOT a selfish, racist, ****phobic, woman-beater like Mayweather.

Margarito already got BUSTED for plaster of paris and now footage of his previous bouts definitely raise doubt about his innocence in those bouts!!! For Pacquiao, his first refusal to extra blood-testing may have raised doubt, BUT he agreed during the last Mayweather negotiation. So...NO MORE DOUBT!!!

Margarito's past....MAJOR MAJOR DOUBT!!!

[WESS]

His oversized melon is certainly a sign of HGH use.

I was going to go that route but chose not too. This guy is giving me is OWN opinion as if it was a fact... One can make up all kinds of "signs" that Pac is on PEDS but its based on all opinion....