who are the top 5 SMM's in the world?

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  • The Surgeon
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    #11
    For me CLEARLY the best in the division is

    1: Andre Ward

    its tight after that but i think its sumit like this

    2: Direll
    3: Abraham
    4: Bute
    5: Kessler


    Froch woulda been my next choice btw

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    • S.G.
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      #12
      Originally posted by boxingking500
      thats why degale already backed out of a fight against groves last febuary..
      Frank Warren made the offer first, and judging by Team Haye's recent promotional / managerial tactics I'm willing to believe Fwank when he says that their counter-offer was unreasonable.

      Anyway, none of that stuff is a reflection on DeGale or Groves, they have basically no say in how they're handled at this point.

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      • boxingking500
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        #13
        Originally posted by S.G.
        Frank Warren made the offer first, and judging by Team Haye's recent promotional / managerial tactics I'm willing to believe Fwank when he says that their counter-offer was unreasonable.

        Anyway, none of that stuff is a reflection on DeGale or Groves, they have basically no say in how they're handled at this point.

        oh so its team haye's fault.. its never that the boxer is scared to fight the other fighter

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        • gingeralbino
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          #14
          Originally posted by S.G.
          Frank Warren made the offer first, and judging by Team Haye's recent promotional / managerial tactics I'm willing to believe Fwank when he says that their counter-offer was unreasonable.

          Anyway, none of that stuff is a reflection on DeGale or Groves, they have basically no say in how they're handled at this point.
          When Adam Booth says one thing, and Frank Warren says another, im of the opinion that they are both lying :-)

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          • S.G.
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            #15
            Originally posted by gingeralbino
            When Adam Booth says one thing, and Frank Warren says another, im of the opinion that they are both lying :-)
            Lol, yeah I know. But tbf old Frank hasn't been so bad lately. E.G. DeGale v Paul Smith - he would never have made that fight 10 years ago.

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            • The Surgeon
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              #16
              For the record its clear DeGale AND Groves want the fight, Warren didnt fancy it. Now he does and it looks like Hayemaker dont now.

              Groves looked better early on but i think Chunky has improved to the point where he is now the better fighter. My Giro would be on Chunky DeGale

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              • The Surgeon
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                #17
                Originally posted by S.G.
                Lol, yeah I know. But tbf old Frank hasn't been so bad lately. E.G. DeGale v Paul Smith - he would never have made that fight 10 years ago.
                He does seem to be slightly less of a complete and utter wanker these days.

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                • MiguelDirrell25
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                  #18
                  1.Andre Ward
                  2.Andre Dirrell
                  3.Lucian Bute
                  4.AA
                  5.Sakio Bika

                  Jus sayin

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                  • MiguelDirrell25
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                    #19
                    .... 6.Kessler
                    7.glen johnson ??
                    8.Jermain taylor
                    9.allan green
                    10. Froch ??

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                    • The Surgeon
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MiguelDirrell25
                      .... 6.Kessler
                      7.glen johnson ??
                      8.Jermain taylor
                      9.allan green
                      10. Froch ??
                      Taylor at 8 and Froch at 10???

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