Why is it that Floyd fights the winner and Pacquiao fights the loser of big fights?

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  • JK1700
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    Why is it that Floyd fights the winner and Pacquiao fights the loser of big fights?

    I just thought about this. Alot of Pacquiao's opponents were coming off big losses when he beat them. Now usually if you are considered the best in the world you should fight the best. Here as some examples of Pacquiao fighting the losers of big fights rather than the winners.

    Erik Morales - Had just lost every round to Zahir Raheem in a lopsided decision. Pacquiao fought Erik not once but twice a division lower than where Raheem beat him. Pacquiao never considered fighting Raheem.

    Oscar Larios - Had just been knocked out in 3 rounds by Israel Vasquez in the fight prior. Moved up 2 divisons and still went the 12 rounds.

    Oscar De La Hoya - Had just lost to Mayweather Jr at 154. Pacquiao fought him at 147 and refuses to fight Floyd because of drug testing.

    Ricky Hatton - Was brutally knocked out by Floyd Mayweather Jr 3 fights prior. Pacquiao will not fight Mayweather Jr for reasons already explained.

    Miguel Cotto - Was beaten around the ring by Antonio Margarito who had loaded gloves. Pacquiao fought him shortly after at a catchweight.

    Antonio Margarito - Completely dominated and knocked out by Shane Mosley. Pacquiao's trainer refused to fight Mosley even at a catchweight because he is "too good of a fighter". Pacquiao is now fighting Margarito at a catchweight for a vacant belt.


    Mayweather Jr however has a long history of fighting the best fighters and sometimes even beating the winners AND losers of big fights to prove he is the best. Here are some examples.

    Genaro Hernandez - Mayweather dominated him and then went on to beat Carlos Hernandez and Carlos Gerena. Former opponents of Genaro.

    Diego Corrales - Completely dominated by Mayweather Jr. Corrales was considered the best at 130lbs after knocking out Angel Manfredy, Derrick Gainer and Justin Juuko. 2 of which Mayweather also defeated.

    Jose Luis Castillo - Was considered the best Lightweight after defeating Steve Johnston. Mayweather didnt fight Johnston but did beat Castillo twice. The first of which was controversial but Floyd set the record straight in the rematch. Winning a close but convincing decision.

    Carlos Baldomir - Considered the best welterweight after defeating then undisputed welterweight champ Zab Judah. Mayweather defeated both Judah and Baldomir in successive bouts.

    Shane Mosley - Ranked #1 after knocking out Antonio Margarito. Mayweather fought him at 147 and dominated Mosley, winning a lopsided decision.

    I used to hear this myth that Floyd doesnt fight the best coming from Pacquiao fans. It's just ridiculous when you think about it. Floyd has fought and beaten the best. It's just because he does it with such ease that people begin to question his opposition. But he's beaten the best over and over again. The same cannot be said for Pacquiao.
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    Originally posted by JK1700
    I just thought about this. Alot of Pacquiao's opponents were coming off big losses when he beat them. Now usually if you are considered the best in the world you should fight the best. Here as some examples of Pacquiao fighting the losers of big fights rather than the winners.

    Erik Morales - Had just lost every round to Zahir Raheem in a lopsided decision. Pacquiao fought Erik not once but twice a division lower than where Raheem beat him. Pacquiao never considered fighting Raheem.

    Oscar Larios - Had just been knocked out in 3 rounds by Israel Vasquez in the fight prior. Moved up 2 divisons and still went the 12 rounds.

    Oscar De La Hoya - Had just lost to Mayweather Jr at 154. Pacquiao fought him at 147 and refuses to fight Floyd because of drug testing.

    Ricky Hatton - Was brutally knocked out by Floyd Mayweather Jr 3 fights prior. Pacquiao will not fight Mayweather Jr for reasons already explained.

    Miguel Cotto - Was beaten around the ring by Antonio Margarito who had loaded gloves. Pacquiao fought him shortly after at a catchweight.

    Antonio Margarito - Completely dominated and knocked out by Shane Mosley. Pacquiao's trainer refused to fight Mosley even at a catchweight because he is "too good of a fighter". Pacquiao is now fighting Margarito at a catchweight for a vacant belt.


    Mayweather Jr however has a long history of fighting the best fighters and sometimes even beating the winners AND losers of big fights to prove he is the best. Here are some examples.

    Genaro Hernandez - Mayweather dominated him and then went on to beat Carlos Hernandez and Carlos Gerena. Former opponents of Genaro.

    Diego Corrales - Completely dominated by Mayweather Jr. Corrales was considered the best at 130lbs after knocking out Angel Manfredy, Derrick Gainer and Justin Juuko. 2 of which Mayweather also defeated.

    Jose Luis Castillo - Was considered the best Lightweight after defeating Steve Johnston. Mayweather didnt fight Johnston but did beat Castillo twice. The first of which was controversial but Floyd set the record straight in the rematch. Winning a close but convincing decision.

    Carlos Baldomir - Considered the best welterweight after defeating then undisputed welterweight champ Zab Judah. Mayweather defeated both Judah and Baldomir in successive bouts.

    Shane Mosley - Ranked #1 after knocking out Antonio Margarito. Mayweather fought him at 147 and dominated Mosley, winning a lopsided decision.

    I used to hear this myth that Floyd doesnt fight the best coming from Pacquiao fans. It's just ridiculous when you think about it. Floyd has fought and beaten the best. It's just because he does it with such ease that people begin to question his opposition. But he's beaten the best over and over again. The same cannot be said for Pacquiao.
    interesting

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    • IIG
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      Green K for this post. I was just thinking about this **** yesterday. Pacquiao loves to feast on leftovers.

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      • krimzon
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        #4
        why won't floyd just fight with pacquiao?

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        • M.I.C.
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          Originally posted by krimzon
          why won't floyd just fight with pacquiao?
          Had Pac simply taken the OST the 1st time Floyd asked the fight would of happened without a hitch but since Team Pac chose to make blood testing into a near death experince for him we have no fight. I'm still not sure why Pac wouldn't be equally happy to know that his opponent, Floyd Mayweather Jr, arguably the best fighter in the world is not using PEDs against him.

          Here's the question why does Floyd care that his opponent isn't using PEDs but Pac don't?

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          • MindBat
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            #6
            Hold on, I'm looking for food pictures to post up...

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            • Canelo Phresh
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              they are not going to argue the facts you just posted they arent that ****** but they will just say vacation or ***** about their lord being asked to engage in a higher standard of drug testing than the easily beaten piss tests mosley beat 10 years ago. or then their is food pics. they dont have any logical debate for these facts at all.

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              • MuckMuck
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                #8
                Don't forget to mention Zab Judah.

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                • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by krimzon
                  why won't floyd just fight with pacquiao?
                  Becuz he fears that pacq may be using PEDs! FACT!
                  BUT, pacq FEARs RANDOM OST!

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                  • ~wave~
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                    #10
                    You can bend anything if it suits your purpose.

                    Eric Morales went up in weight to lightweight against Raheem, where he was in uncharted territory. He re-fought on a 1-0 advantage over Pacquiao after this therefore, Pacman was fighting someone who won against him.

                    Barrerra had just won the trilogy against Morales when Pacquiao fought and TKOed him the first time. He was going against a winner, a Barrera at his prime.

                    Oscar Larios was just a tuneup fight for the rematch against Morales.

                    Dela Hoya was considered a sure win against Pacquiao, odds heavily in his favor, a Flyweight vs. a Welterweight, how easily you forget, until you lost with your alibis.

                    Manny Pacman was considered no match for Hatton when Pacuiao was still fighting Diaz and Marquez. And Marquez was certainly not a loser. And before Pac fought Hatton, the latter was coming of two wins.

                    Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito were the fighters Floyd Mayweather avoided and retired in effect.

                    Floyd fought Mosley, who lost to Cotto whereas Pacman demolished Cotto.

                    Compared to Manny Pacquiao, Floyd is actually a nobody, whose only memorable fight was with a Baldomir.

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