imagine de la hoya(tito fight) against pacquiao(cotto fight)

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  • jrosales13
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    #41
    Originally posted by rican411
    Oscar landed hunderds of punches, but Trinidad wn't fazed one bit. If Tito is one dimensional, I don't understand why Oscar gets any cerdit at all, he ALMOST won against a 1 dimensional fighter. That is crap lol
    Exactly right, we seen Tito get dropped early in fights. But, yet he took Oscar shots well also.

    He kept on coming forward and forward.

    So for all these awesome Oscar left hook power. You would think he could of at least drop Tito early once or back him up some. But, he couldn't he was the one backing up cuz he felt Tito power.

    Really for all this talk about Oscar great left hook power. Above 140 that left hook power really wasn't there. It only showed up against ruined, chin cracked, inactive, shot fighters. Every time he fought somebody prime his left hook power never showed. Above 140 I am saying. Now at 140 and below it was awesome and it could of turned off the lights against damn near any fighter. But, above 140 really is kind of overrated.

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    • sir boogie
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      #42
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      I actually have watch the fight plenty.

      You not dis*****g anything I am saying.

      Proves that you only seen compubox numbers and get your opinion in myths that came after the fight.

      Too bad you didn't watch it live.

      So you could see that fight was by far not a robbery at all. Not even close.
      So because I didn't watch it live that suddenly makes me wrong?

      It's true that Compubox numbers don't always tell the winner when there's a slight difference. But when the difference is over a hundred punches landed, you can't even dispute it.

      De La Hoya may have given the last few rounds away, but for the majority of the fight he was putting on a boxing display.

      If you've seen it plenty of times, why don't you tell me the rounds in which Trinidad won? I'll be waiting.

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      • Mojita
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        #43
        Are you guys really comparing Cotto to a prime Oscar just cause he ran that night? Idiots.

        Oscar ran because Tito stood almost the same height nd was a big man with stamina with a one punch KO in his fists.

        Oscar would be fighting a shorter man that he would keep away with his jab and pick him off into a KO sooner or later. He wouldnt have to play safe with a smaller guy. You guys really havent seen a prime DLH at all. Pacquiao would lose.

        Cotto ran because he was a damaged fighter. had that been Cotto pre-Margarito or even pre-Margarito round 6 he would have won. Cotto had no real trainer or a gameplan that night.

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          #44
          Originally posted by AKATheMack
          How do you see a young Oscar vs a veteran Marquez at 130 playing out?
          I think JMM could beat him. Oscar would have the size, speed, and perhaps power advantage. But, Oscar was very green.

          And, was getting dropped by lesser fighters. Not saying he had a bad chin cuz he didn't. But, he wasn't mature enough yet. And, at 130 JMM was greatly skilled in a good weight for him and his accuracy and smarts would of been hell for Oscar.

          I mean the best fighter Oscar beat at 130 was Jorge Paez FFS's.

          I would pick JMM.

          And, if Oscar did win. It would be a very close, debatable decision ala Pac-JMM

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            #45
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Well considering that Oscar ran like a B and lost that fight. And, Pac had Cotto moonwalking in the ring.

            That I see Pac winning that fight.
            can't blame DLH for playing it safe after you humiliate tito. he took tito to school in that fight. landed more than 100 punches! hahaha! don king and tito got away with that one.

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              #46
              Prime Pacquiao would beat prime Oscar by UD or even a late stoppage.

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                #47
                Originally posted by sir boogie
                So because I didn't watch it live that suddenly makes me wrong?

                It's true that Compubox numbers don't always tell the winner when there's a slight difference. But when the difference is over a hundred punches landed, you can't even dispute it.

                De La Hoya may have given the last few rounds away, but for the majority of the fight he was putting on a boxing display.

                If you've seen it plenty of times, why don't you tell me the rounds in which Trinidad won? I'll be waiting.
                Round 1, 4, and 5 could of gone either way. 9-12 Tito won.

                To think that Oscar won every single round clearly for the first 8 rounds is just ridiculous. And, makes me sure that you have not seen that fight.

                Could he have a case to have won every round? Sure... Did he win them clearly? No... Does Tito have a case to have won some of the rounds in the first 8 rounds? Yes. There were at least 3 rounds that were close, that could of gone either way.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by reneg_2
                  can't blame DLH for playing it safe after you humiliate tito. he took tito to school in that fight. landed more than 100 punches! hahaha! don king and tito got away with that one.
                  Again with compubox?

                  Why have judges, lets just have compubox score fights from now on.

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                  • Xena
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by reneg_2
                    can't blame DLH for playing it safe after you humiliate tito. he took tito to school in that fight. landed more than 100 punches! hahaha! don king and tito got away with that one.
                    I love how everyone says Oscar "took Tito to school", but when someone runs and potshots against a mexican warrior, you guys are quick to call him a p.ussy and a b1tch. Oscar fought like a complete b1tch that night. End of story.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by rican411
                      What robbery descion? LOL you might of mistaken Cotto for Margarito, who lost to Clottey, Santos, Mosley, and Paul Williams.
                      I agree, Cotto and Margarito both lost to Clottey.

                      That says a lot less about Clottey's skill and a lot more about Cotto and Margarito's lack of skills.

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