ATG and HOF-level Heavyweights the Klitschko Bros would beat?

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  • FerdinandMarcos
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    #11
    Originally posted by INSECT
    Only Holmes and Ali stand a chance.

    The rest all get fucked. I'm shocked you put Foreman and Liston in there. Both were plodders and slow as molasses. Liston in particular is one of the most overrated bastards in all of boxing.
    You're a fool..

    Those ATG's aren't busters like Ross Purity..Lamon Brewster...Corey Sanders...and Chris Byrd.

    "Plodders" and "slow as molasses" best describes the Klit sisters than anybody else...lol

    Get off your lazy **** ass and go to a gym...loser.

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    • Left Hook Tua
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      #12
      Originally posted by -pound4pound-
      they're lucky Michael Grant is past his prime
      they'd break grant's leg with a jab.



      i see on espn gamecast , heat are embarassing themself on national tv.




      i gotta get home and see this.....

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      • sir boogie
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        #13
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        dude , holyfield would get his ass beat down.


        holyfield is one of the most overrated heavyweights of all time.
        Beating Tyson, Bowe and arguably Lewis in the rematch means you're overrated?

        Oh well. No point in discussing this with someone if they haven't even watched fights of the fighters they're talking about.

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        • -MAKAVELLI-
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          #14
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          they'd break grant's leg with a jab.



          i see on espn gamecast , heat are embarassing themself on national tv.




          i gotta get home and see this.....


          that's what im sayin...i have the gamecast on and see that they only scored 9pts in the first quarter

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          • Left Hook Tua
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            #15
            Originally posted by sir boogie
            Beating Tyson, Bowe and arguably Lewis in the rematch means you're overrated?

            Oh well. No point in discussing this with someone if they haven't even watched fights of the fighters they're talking about.
            lmao

            beat lewis in the rematch?

            what a dumb truck.


            the rematch was closer than the 1st but he still didn't come close to beating lewis.

            i suggest YOU go watch those fights.

            this is why evander is so overrated. dumbasses like you.

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            • boxer2k5
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              #16
              ross corrie and lamon lmaooo nuff said

              you guys on here are real disrespectful to hall of famers its a shame so called boxing fans show no respect to the sport the history or the fighters.

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              • r.burgundy
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                #17
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                tua scrambled that fool's brain.
                naw.he was crazy well before that.he once demanded 1 billion $'s for a fight

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                • XionComrade
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                  Jack Johnson , Jack Dempsey , Rocky Marciano , Evander Holyfield , Floyd Patterson......Definitely.

                  Joe Louis , Joe Frazier , Mike Tyson......Probably.

                  Muhammad Ali , Larry Holmes , George Foreman , Lennox Lewis , Sonny Liston......Not likely.



                  Not bad for the Klits. Head to head they do well against anyone.
                  I think Marciano would give either of them a helluva fight. neither Klitschko has the power to be tremendously dangerous to him, and his is a quick pressure fighter, which is their acid bath...not to mention 15 rounds stamina and a devastating punch.


                  Holyfield, obviously you do not know what you are talking about. Not only does Holyfield have the power to take Wlad out early, but he is also one of the best brawlers in history. Neither Klitschko can punch like Tyson did against Holyfield, neither one can even hurt Holyfield. They have no inside ability except clinching, they do not throw big combinations, they do not hit as hard as Tyson, their hand speed is awesome but not Tyson fast, and Vitali is not as accurate as Tyson. To beat Holyfield they would have to take him at his own game. The odds here are heavily in favor of Evander.
                  Evander has better stamina, better chin, better punching ability, and a better warrior's heart. No chance in hell here.

                  Joe Louis is a tough call. Joe had the best combination punching of any heavyweight Champion. Couple that with a devastating punch and an amazing jab and he is a tough nut to crack. He could be knocked out however, and left himself somewhat open. So here I think Wlad could Knock him out late, the fight with Vitali would be hard to call, a good established jab could do it for Joe or Vitali.

                  Holmes and Ali, obviously going to just stick and move all night, Holmes will probably try to KO Wlad all night long, both fighters chins are to good to be hurt by either Klitschko, and I would say they have a minor stamina advantage(Especially Ali) Once again, they beat the Klits, but bad, it would be very competitive, but a entirely higher class than either bro. Vitali is wide open for a good jab, that is where Holmes comes in, and wide open for fast straight shots, Ali's game.

                  Frazier stands a awesome chance against Vitali. Vitali cannot fight moving backwards, and can only punch with his feet planted. He holds his hands low. Vitali is a versatile mid to long range boxer, but has no inside game. Once a fighter is on the inside it is game over, as seen with Williams who could score nearly at will close. Frazier by late TKO over Vitali.
                  Wlad is a big long range puncher, and stands a good chance against Frazier in the first 3 rounds. Frazier has one punch knockout ability over Wlad(Hardest puncher Wlad would have ever faced), has the highest work rate, the best defense, and puts on the most pressure. After round 3 if Wlad has not already been nailed, their is no chance. Close fight to call.

                  With Foreman and Sonny, obviously is the biggest problem for both. Liston and Foreman both had an all time great jab, Foreman's forced jab alone possessed more pop than a Tyson hook. Both fighters have good 7 or 8 round stamina, have good chins, and considerably longer reaches than Wlad.

                  Wlad has the pop to get rid of Liston late IMHO, great chin that Liston had. But Wlad could not even scratch Prime Foreman before George walked him over, neither Klitschko can handle pressure of that magnitude, and neither one gives good lateral movement or can fight on the back foot. Honestly it is better to pit either Klit against Old george than Prime, at least then it is competitive.

                  Tyson obviously a pressure fighter. Obviously going to pick both Klitschkos apart late.

                  Vitali could not even beat Lewis in the worst shape/performance of his entire career, no way can he stand against a Prime Lewis. The fight was EVEN and the only fighter truly hurt was Vitali in round 6

                  I would say all combinations of these fights are real PPV sellers and slugfests, but you guys are completely overrating the Klitschkos here...have you even seen any of the fights of the greats?

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                  • check hook
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                    Jack Johnson , Jack Dempsey , Rocky Marciano , Evander Holyfield , Floyd Patterson......Definitely.

                    Joe Louis , Joe Frazier , Mike Tyson......Probably.

                    Muhammad Ali , Larry Holmes , George Foreman , Lennox Lewis , Sonny Liston......Not likely.



                    Not bad for the Klits. Head to head they do well against anyone.

                    the top line i pretty much agree.

                    However out of all those names they would have the most problems with Tyson. Stylistically he is Klitschko kryptonite IMHO. Styles make fights. Tyson would KO both inside of 3 rds.

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