ATG and HOF-level Heavyweights the Klitschko Bros would beat?
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Oh well. No point in discussing this with someone if they haven't even watched fights of the fighters they're talking about.Comment
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beat lewis in the rematch?
what a dumb truck.
the rematch was closer than the 1st but he still didn't come close to beating lewis.
i suggest YOU go watch those fights.
this is why evander is so overrated. dumbasses like you.Comment
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Jack Johnson , Jack Dempsey , Rocky Marciano , Evander Holyfield , Floyd Patterson......Definitely.
Joe Louis , Joe Frazier , Mike Tyson......Probably.
Muhammad Ali , Larry Holmes , George Foreman , Lennox Lewis , Sonny Liston......Not likely.
Not bad for the Klits. Head to head they do well against anyone.
Holyfield, obviously you do not know what you are talking about. Not only does Holyfield have the power to take Wlad out early, but he is also one of the best brawlers in history. Neither Klitschko can punch like Tyson did against Holyfield, neither one can even hurt Holyfield. They have no inside ability except clinching, they do not throw big combinations, they do not hit as hard as Tyson, their hand speed is awesome but not Tyson fast, and Vitali is not as accurate as Tyson. To beat Holyfield they would have to take him at his own game. The odds here are heavily in favor of Evander.
Evander has better stamina, better chin, better punching ability, and a better warrior's heart. No chance in hell here.
Joe Louis is a tough call. Joe had the best combination punching of any heavyweight Champion. Couple that with a devastating punch and an amazing jab and he is a tough nut to crack. He could be knocked out however, and left himself somewhat open. So here I think Wlad could Knock him out late, the fight with Vitali would be hard to call, a good established jab could do it for Joe or Vitali.
Holmes and Ali, obviously going to just stick and move all night, Holmes will probably try to KO Wlad all night long, both fighters chins are to good to be hurt by either Klitschko, and I would say they have a minor stamina advantage(Especially Ali) Once again, they beat the Klits, but bad, it would be very competitive, but a entirely higher class than either bro. Vitali is wide open for a good jab, that is where Holmes comes in, and wide open for fast straight shots, Ali's game.
Frazier stands a awesome chance against Vitali. Vitali cannot fight moving backwards, and can only punch with his feet planted. He holds his hands low. Vitali is a versatile mid to long range boxer, but has no inside game. Once a fighter is on the inside it is game over, as seen with Williams who could score nearly at will close. Frazier by late TKO over Vitali.
Wlad is a big long range puncher, and stands a good chance against Frazier in the first 3 rounds. Frazier has one punch knockout ability over Wlad(Hardest puncher Wlad would have ever faced), has the highest work rate, the best defense, and puts on the most pressure. After round 3 if Wlad has not already been nailed, their is no chance. Close fight to call.
With Foreman and Sonny, obviously is the biggest problem for both. Liston and Foreman both had an all time great jab, Foreman's forced jab alone possessed more pop than a Tyson hook. Both fighters have good 7 or 8 round stamina, have good chins, and considerably longer reaches than Wlad.
Wlad has the pop to get rid of Liston late IMHO, great chin that Liston had. But Wlad could not even scratch Prime Foreman before George walked him over, neither Klitschko can handle pressure of that magnitude, and neither one gives good lateral movement or can fight on the back foot. Honestly it is better to pit either Klit against Old george than Prime, at least then it is competitive.
Tyson obviously a pressure fighter. Obviously going to pick both Klitschkos apart late.
Vitali could not even beat Lewis in the worst shape/performance of his entire career, no way can he stand against a Prime Lewis. The fight was EVEN and the only fighter truly hurt was Vitali in round 6
I would say all combinations of these fights are real PPV sellers and slugfests, but you guys are completely overrating the Klitschkos here...have you even seen any of the fights of the greats?Comment
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Jack Johnson , Jack Dempsey , Rocky Marciano , Evander Holyfield , Floyd Patterson......Definitely.
Joe Louis , Joe Frazier , Mike Tyson......Probably.
Muhammad Ali , Larry Holmes , George Foreman , Lennox Lewis , Sonny Liston......Not likely.
Not bad for the Klits. Head to head they do well against anyone.
the top line i pretty much agree.
However out of all those names they would have the most problems with Tyson. Stylistically he is Klitschko kryptonite IMHO. Styles make fights. Tyson would KO both inside of 3 rds.Comment
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