Clear this up for me...what i dont understand about Floyd and OST

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  • AllEyesOpen
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    #71
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    I also hate this whole "if he's clean then he'll take the test all the way up to the fight" argument, when mosley/wifebeater jr had an 18 day cut off.

    The most important fact about that May/Mosley cutoff date that pac**** like yourself refuse to accept is that neither fighter knew the tests had stopped and expected to be tested at any given moment, detering any attempt at cheating during that time. Pac wants to know the tests have stopped, Mayweather and Mosley did not.


    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    no one is advocating cheating, but the argument is valid, especially since there is no proof of pac ever using PEDs and pac had agreed to OST up to 7 days before the fight.

    There's nothing valid about saying "If he's so sure that he can beat him then why ask for the tests" because you are advocating that wether he's cheating or not it shouldn't matter to Mayweather, which is bull**** to me. If he believe's Pac is on something then he should protect himself, just like Pac has the right to protect himself with a million dollar penalty for Mayweather coming in overweight

    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    it shows how much people wanna see this fight. true fight fans give reasons why the fight should happen. only *****sexual f@ggots make up excuses why the fight can't happen.
    No excuses, I want to see this fight, but being a person with a rational mind i have to ask myself the question that pac **** suckers like you refuse to ask; "If a man is clean, why refuse any kind of tests?"

    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    1) it's a boxer's job to risk their lives to prove they're the best
    2) a boxer is supposed to give us great fights.

    you act like wifebeater jr is doing us a favor by fighting pac. it's his mutha****in job!!!!
    Yes it is, does that mean that Mosley should have fought Marg with his plaster, cause it's his job. Fighters risk their lives to entertain us and at the very least they should be given the best top of the line technology to make sure their not being cheated out of their hard work, and possibly their lives by someone. An unfair advantage is an unfair advantage. In the end, deep down, where your soft like a woman, you fear for your idle and long to see Mayweather lose to him, but you know he needs every advantage he can get, fair or otherwise, but i don't know why i waste my time, you refuse to see the truth, just like you refused to respond to my first post.

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    • maguirre
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      #72
      Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
      The most important fact about that May/Mosley cutoff date that pac**** like yourself refuse to accept is that neither fighter knew the tests had stopped and expected to be tested at any given moment, detering any attempt at cheating during that time. Pac wants to know the tests have stopped, Mayweather and Mosley did not.
      Oh please. The only people that are buying that thing are dumb people.

      But, whatever. Let's see what happens in Floyd's next fight. One thing is for sure, Tygart will never go beyond 14 days (2 weeks).

      If I were you people I would tone down this silly masquerade. TYGART WILL NEVER GO BEYOND 14 DAYS CUT OFF. (That's assuming Floyd would go on with this OST charade.) Come on, any normal person can't be that daft.

      So Floyd and his next dance partner want to go through that thing again, eh? That would be entertainment for me. People are damn serious about this. I'll look forward to seeing Count Dracula again sucking blood out of two boxers in the middle of training.

      There would be a massive backfire coming!

      See you on Floyd's next fight with his now famous special OST!

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      • IAMBIAZED
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        #73
        Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
        The most important fact about that May/Mosley cutoff date that pac**** like yourself refuse to accept is that neither fighter knew the tests had stopped and expected to be tested at any given moment, detering any attempt at cheating during that time. Pac wants to know the tests have stopped, Mayweather and Mosley did not.





        There's nothing valid about saying "If he's so sure that he can beat him then why ask for the tests" because you are advocating that wether he's cheating or not it shouldn't matter to Mayweather, which is bull**** to me. If he believe's Pac is on something then he should protect himself, just like Pac has the right to protect himself with a million dollar penalty for Mayweather coming in overweight



        No excuses, I want to see this fight, but being a person with a rational mind i have to ask myself the question that pac **** suckers like you refuse to ask; "If a man is clean, why refuse any kind of tests?"



        Yes it is, does that mean that Mosley should have fought Marg with his plaster, cause it's his job. Fighters risk their lives to entertain us and at the very least they should be given the best top of the line technology to make sure their not being cheated out of their hard work, and possibly their lives by someone. An unfair advantage is an unfair advantage. In the end, deep down, where your soft like a woman, you fear for your idle and long to see Mayweather lose to him, but you know he needs every advantage he can get, fair or otherwise, but i don't know why i waste my time, you refuse to see the truth, just like you refused to respond to my first post.
        I mean if someone says I'm gay, do I need to beat you up to prove that?

        If someone says I stole your car, would an arrest warrant appear at my doorstep just because "you" say so?

        If a black is asked to show "college degree" because he might be a fake but others on the same room is not asked, how would you feel?

        If a ****** is asked 20 questions before he can board the plane but the other passengers are allowed to board the plane immediately, how does that feel?

        How does it feel if you are condemed a ped user and required to take OST while others were never asked and this was never on the rules?

        I'm waiting for your "ideas" AllEyesOpen and all other *****s here.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #74
          Originally posted by IAMBIAZED
          I mean if someone says I'm gay, do I need to beat you up to prove that?

          If someone says I stole your car, would an arrest warrant appear at my doorstep just because "you" say so?

          If a black is asked to show "college degree" because he might be a fake but others on the same room is not asked, how would you feel?

          If a ****** is asked 20 questions before he can board the plane but the other passengers are allowed to board the plane immediately, how does that feel?

          How does it feel if you are condemed a ped user and required to take OST while others were never asked and this was never on the rules?

          I'm waiting for your "ideas" AllEyesOpen and all other *****s here.
          My goodness, don't you wish you could take this post back? Or do you stand by its idiocy?

          What the ****?? Not fo rnothing, but some of you are dumb as ****!!!!!

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          • The Noose
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            #75
            Originally posted by yesir
            dude. he believes pac is on something. so he said from now on, all of his fights, he will require testing. what hes saying is that he would like for others to take his stance, to DEMAND random testing for their fights too.

            he never said he was going to fund OST for everyone elses fights, just his.

            whats so hard to understand? it doesnt make sense to you b.c you are looking for an excuse to defend pac...well you cant


            here are the facts. pac walked the first time after getting his 14 days. and this time, he refused by offering 7 days knowing that floyd wouldnt accept. those are the facts and they cant be argued. thats twice now that pac has avoided a fight with floyd.
            Im not looking for a way to defend pac. I believe they are both to blame. But like i said in the first post, if Pac is on PED's, then thats a reason why he dont want to take tests. Makes sense right.

            If Floyd wants the money and believes he can beat Pac, then imposing OST doesnt make sense.

            Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
            Regardless of wether you think it's cleaning up the sport or not to have a cut off date, OST is a step in the right direction.

            What I don't understand is why Pac was so against it in the first place, only to be willing to agree with the 14 day cut off date several months later, what changed?


            I thought before he refused Floyd to dictate the terms because Floyd had singled Pac out and suggested he was a cheat. And Pac being at the time the top dog didnt want to play ball.
            I remember him saying if the commission asked he would do it, but wouldnt be insulted then do as Floyd asked.

            But yea, OST is good for boxing. But a cut off date still allows a fighter an opportunity to take PED's.

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            • Pacquiao'd
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              #76
              Originally posted by The Noose
              Im not looking for a way to defend pac. I believe they are both to blame. But like i said in the first post, if Pac is on PED's, then thats a reason why he dont want to take tests. Makes sense right.

              If Floyd wants the money and believes he can beat Pac, then imposing OST doesnt make sense.





              I thought before he refused Floyd to dictate the terms because Floyd had singled Pac out and suggested he was a cheat. And Pac being at the time the top dog didnt want to play ball.
              I remember him saying if the commission asked he would do it, but wouldnt be insulted then do as Floyd asked.

              But yea, OST is good for boxing. But a cut off date still allows a fighter an opportunity to take PED's.
              but pac imposing a 10 mil per lbs clause does when floyd has never come in over weight for a WW fight and they have both come into a fight over weight?

              floyd accepted pacs demand whether or not he believes floyd tries to come in over weight and floyd imposed OST b/c he believes pac is on something but pac haw yet to accept and has come up with continuous and conflicting excuses and lies regarding testing

              eye for an eye
              Last edited by Pacquiao'd; 10-26-2010, 02:15 PM.

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              • Ray*
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                #77
                Mayweather's reasons for asking for a test is simple, He think Pac is on something that would help him if they both get in the ring, I don't blame him, Boxing is a blood sport and we have a lot of cheaters in the sport right now who know they might be caught out.

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                • FerdinandMarcos
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                  The most important fact about that May/Mosley cutoff date that pac**** like yourself refuse to accept is that neither fighter knew the tests had stopped and expected to be tested at any given moment, detering any attempt at cheating during that time. Pac wants to know the tests have stopped, Mayweather and Mosley did not.





                  There's nothing valid about saying "If he's so sure that he can beat him then why ask for the tests" because you are advocating that wether he's cheating or not it shouldn't matter to Mayweather, which is bull**** to me. If he believe's Pac is on something then he should protect himself, just like Pac has the right to protect himself with a million dollar penalty for Mayweather coming in overweight



                  No excuses, I want to see this fight, but being a person with a rational mind i have to ask myself the question that pac **** suckers like you refuse to ask; "If a man is clean, why refuse any kind of tests?"



                  Yes it is, does that mean that Mosley should have fought Marg with his plaster, cause it's his job. Fighters risk their lives to entertain us and at the very least they should be given the best top of the line technology to make sure their not being cheated out of their hard work, and possibly their lives by someone. An unfair advantage is an unfair advantage. In the end, deep down, where your soft like a woman, you fear for your idle and long to see Mayweather lose to him, but you know he needs every advantage he can get, fair or otherwise, but i don't know why i waste my time, you refuse to see the truth, just like you refused to respond to my first post.
                  You just slammed that ****sucker..

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                  • FerdinandMarcos
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Mayweather's reasons for asking for a test is simple, He think Pac is on something that would help him if they both get in the ring, I don't blame him, Boxing is a blood sport and we have a lot of cheaters in the sport right now who know they might be caught out.
                    Certain folks don't want to clean-up boxing.

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                    • PainKiller
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                      #80
                      Floyd needs to get on U stream and tell every boxer to demand OST

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