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  • #51
    Originally posted by Brutal Honesty View Post
    nationalistic fighter? why do so many whites, blacks, hispanics watch manny? manny's base the philippine ppv power is only worth at best 200-300k ppvs in america. i was at the clottey pacquiao fight in dallas & it was full of whites & hispanics & other races not just philippines.

    even your statement nationalistic driven can be said for floyd or any other fighter.
    FACT:They gave away FREE and discounted tickets to the Pacquiao vs. Clottey fight.

    So probably the reason you saw so many whites and hispanices is because they got their tickets for free


    As a result, the Gate for the fight was only something like $5 Million dollars.

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    • #52
      Floyd barely knows more than 5 sentences. he uses the exact same lines in EVERY interview. How is that entertaining?

      It's like he's a computer programmed to answer every question exactly the same in each interview.

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      • #53
        I love the way this guy pronounce boring in this video:
        It always gives me a big chuckle. LOL.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Horus View Post
          If you read what I just posted, you would know I already answered your question.


          Facts:Manny is close to floyd drawing Appeal, but he is not the bigger Draw.
          Numbers proved this.


          Manny is a incredible draw just like Julio Ceaser Chavez,Alexis Arguello,
          Felix Trinidad, Wladimir Klitschko and Joe Calzaghe are incredible draws..
          Because they are fighters who are famous by in large part due to their Nationality and how their fighting style embodies the characteristics of their Nation. As a result, their countrymen and women usually find pride in them and support them.

          Did that answer your question?



          Philippines is more than 20 thousand miles away and the Filipino population in the US is a 'minority among **********'...so again, why would someone so boring and someone from somewhere so foreign be almost as big a draw as an American fighter with a Facebook account?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Horus View Post
            FACT:They gave away FREE and discounted tickets to the Pacquiao vs. Clottey fight.

            So probably the reason you saw so many whites and hispanices is because they got their tickets for free


            As a result, the Gate for the fight was only something like $5 Million dollars.
            do you know for a fact how many tickets they gave away? no you dont. all you have is conjecture. If you think the fight only drew $5million you have zero concept of business & jerry jones wouldnt have been so quick to host a pacquiao vs margarito fight. the fight drew 50k plus. jerry jones is a business man, a successful one at that. he's not gonna do it if it was a economic failure.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View Post
              Man Horus u can say whatever U like but Manny is NOT boring inside the ring & as a fight fan to me,that's 90% of the equation baby!!
              Originally posted by Horus View Post
              The Difference Between Entertainers and Fighters. Why Pacquiao is BORING!

              Boxing is all about entertainment, drama, and mystery. Before and after the bell.

              Pacquiao after the bell ring, is one of the most entertaining fighters of all time.

              Pacquiao before the bell rings, is one of the most boring fighters of all time.

              !!
              In case you missed it.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Brutal Honesty View Post
                its quite ridiculous really. philippine minority in the U.S. is about 4-5 million. if you divide that by about 20 people which equals a ppv party that only amounts to 250,000 ppvs. How has manny achieved 400k, 700k, 1 mill ppv 2x if he was just purely a nationalistic driven fighter?



                imagine if PAC had a Facebook or Twitter account? he would be boxing's true cash cow

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                • #58
                  As a fan of boxing, I care about what happens in the boxing ring most. I'd watch Pacquiao KOing Hatton over Floyd talking about Shane's hair any day.

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                  • #59
                    again horus:


                    Originally posted by Brutal Honesty View Post
                    its quite ridiculous really. philippine minority in the U.S. is about 4-5 million. if you divide that by about 20 people which equals a ppv party that only amounts to 250,000 ppvs. How has manny achieved 400k, 700k, 1 mill ppv 2x if he was just purely a nationalistic driven fighter?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Brutal Honesty View Post
                      do you know for a fact how many tickets they gave away? no you dont. all you have is conjecture. If you think the fight only drew $5million you have zero concept of business & jerry jones wouldnt have been so quick to host a pacquiao vs margarito fight. the fight drew 50k plus. jerry jones is a business man, a successful one at that. he's not gonna do it if it was a economic failure.
                      PPV & GROSS HISTORY

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                      Originally posted by Horus View Post
                      PPV & GROSS HISTORY

                      Last Fight
                      Mayweather-Mosley
                      15,321 seats
                      Live Gate: $11.1M
                      PPV: 1.4 Million
                      Gross: $78.3 Million
                      Nevada State Athletic Commission (702) 486-2575 [to check the numbers]

                      Last Fight
                      Pacquiao vs. Clottey
                      50,994 seats
                      Live Gate: 4.2 Million (Jerry Jones paid 7 Million for the site fee)
                      PPV: 700k
                      Gross:$35 Million
                      Texas Athletic Commission: (512)463 -6599 [to check the numbers]

                      Mayweather vs. Mosley outsold Pacquiao vs. Clottey,Cotto,Hatton, at the gate and on PPV.
                      51k seats sold but less than 5 million gate revenue...


                      Pacquiao's 12 pay-per-view fights
                      6.25 million buys and $320 million


                      June 2008: Pacquiao vs. David Diaz 250k PPV = $12.5 Million
                      Dec 2008: Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya 1.25M PPV= $70 Million
                      May 2009: Pacquaio vs. Ricky Hatton 800k PPV= $43 Million
                      Nov 2009: Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto 1.25 M PPV = $68 Million
                      Mar 2010: Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey 700k PPV= $35 Million

                      other ppv:
                      Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
                      Pacquiao vs. Morales II- 355,000 buys
                      PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
                      Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
                      Pacquaio vs. MarquezII 400,000 buys


                      Mayweather 7 Pay Per View Fights
                      6.9 Million Buys and $342 Million

                      June 2005 Mayweather vs. Arturo Gatti 365k= $16.5 million
                      Apr. 2006 Mayweather vs. Zab Judah 375k = $ $16.8 million
                      Sep 2006 Mayweather vs. Carlos Baldomir 325k = $16.3 Million
                      May 2007 Mayweather vs. De la Hoya 2.44M=$136.6 Million
                      Dec 2007 Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton 920k=$50 Million
                      Sep 2009 Mayweather vs. Juan Manuel Marquz 1.1M=$52 Million
                      May 2010 Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley 1.4M=78.3 Million
                      http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=369262

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