most fighters are boring outside of the ring, including mayweather.
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The Difference Between Entertainers and Fighters. Why Pacquiao is BORING!
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Originally posted by Horus View PostThe Difference Between Entertainers and Fighters. Why Pacquiao is BORING!
Boxing is all about entertainment, drama, and mystery. Before and after the bell.
Pacquiao after the bell ring, is one of the most entertaining fighters of all time.
Pacquiao before the bell rings, is one of the most boring fighters of all time.
Plain and Simple, Pacquiao has no personality. Pacquiao appeal is him being the pride and hope of the Philippines. So doing a 24/7 surrounding his journey towards his next fight will be boring because he is only 1 dimensional. How many shots can they show of him being cheered by his countrymen? So it should not be no big surprise that people find Manny Pacquiao boring before the bell rings, and when it comes to promoting a fight.
When its comes to promotion of this fight. What Storylines can they sell concerning Pacquiao?
Pacquiao loves his country?
Pacquiao loves for his country is making him distracted?
Pacquiao countrymen find hope in him?
Where is the Drama?
Where is the Intrigued?
Where is the Mystery?
Where is the Entertainment?
Boxing is always at its peak popularity when it has fighters with Personalities.
Historically speaking there has always been two type of draws in boxing that resonate with the fans.
Personality Driven Fighter and Nationalistic Driven Fighter.It's rare, but sometimes 1 fighter processes both and than he is truly
Transcendent figure.
Personality Driven Fighter: Are fighters who are infamous,and notorious
for the things they say as well as the way they fight. As a result, people pay to see them fight as well to see them win or lose.
Nationalistic Driven Fighter: Are fighters who are famous by in large part due to their Nationality and how their fighting style embodies the characteristics of their Nation. As a result, their countrymen and women usually find pride in them and support them.
Personality Driven Fighters
Thomas Hearns
Marvin Hagler
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr
Hector Camacho
Nationalistic Driven Fighter:
Julio Ceaser Chavez
Manny Pacquiao
Alexis Arguello
Felix Trinidad
Miguel Cotto
Antonio Margarito
Wladimir Klitschko
Joe Calzaghe
Both(Personality + Nationality)
Muhammad Ali
Mike Tyson
Roberto Duran
Oscar De La Hoya
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Jake LaMotta
Sugar Ray Robinson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Ricky Hatton
Rocky Marciano
David Haye
Gatti
So instead of some of you guys getting upset that people find pacquiao's 24/7 and interviews boring, just understand that Pacquiao draw is not based on him having a personality. So do not get upset when people say he is boring.
Because you know what? He is.
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Originally posted by Eaner0919 View PostI did and to be honest I am not sure why you feel FB and Twitter is an integral part of how Manny can gain more US access.
he is not a showman yet people still gravitate to him
he is not flashy nor a big talker yet people still come to see him fight, watch his PPVs and adore him
calling attention to himself on twitter or FB isn't going to enhance that
different fighters have different styles. Some find what others find boring as entertaining or at the very least viewable
see I think you see brash and self promoting as important kind of like how you are personally
you create these threads largely to call attention to yourself and for the most part it works because people come to these threads
but something lacks and always has Horus. A genuine sense that you get something out of these threads as someone perusing this. Much like those who critique Floyd sure they come to watch him fight but a lot of times they leave feeling cheated, kind of like your threads
now Manny by contrast is all sound and fury he is basically a man of few words, kind of boring, kind of middle of the road, he talks really bad trash and he probably knows it
however he is one thing you could never comprehend and something you clearly overlook much like you clearly are avoiding my simple little question as to whether you have seen Pacquiao fight.
he is endearing to his fans. He is the epitome of speak softly and carry a big stick. When fans go into a Manny fight they know exactly what they get so they know if they purchase a ticket chances are they won't be disappointed
and I asked you whether you have been to a Manny fight for several reasons
1. you would then have firsthand knowledge as to what the crowd at a Pacquiao fight consists of not just speculation and assumption that non Asian people went because they were comped
2. you would get a firsthand view of what it's like to see a crowd energized by him. You would know how endeared he is to his fans and how loyal they are to him and ....and he has yet to disappoint them even in losing fashion.
3. going to fights is unlike sitting on here and speculating what it is like. You would know had you attended any and I think your assessment wouldn't be so media driven
Truth right here.. Well said Eaner..
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Originally posted by kadyo View Postto be more correct, i'd avoid point estimation, so i'd go for an interval of 15-25 with a margin of error of 5%.
i'm sure horus knows what i'm talking about.
But even 15-25 is too wide of a range.
I would used 5-10 as my average per fight if I were to averaged.
because if you used 20 as your AVERAGE. that means more than 45% of total sample is more than 20 people per party.Last edited by Horus; 10-26-2010, 10:03 AM.
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I find it funny that you seek answers YET
have not answered my simple little question even AFTER I answered your repeated questions as to why I asked
so
how many Manny Pacquiao fights have you attended? honest straight forward answer is all I seek
I will wait
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Originally posted by Eaner0919 View PostI find it funny that you seek answers YET
have not answered my simple little question even AFTER I answered your repeated questions as to why I asked
so
how many Manny Pacquiao fights have you attended? honest straight forward answer is all I seek
I will wait
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostCarnal, I think you and I and everybody who has read this thread no the answer to that question.
just merely pointing out his hypocritical ways in which he wants people to give him answers but yet will never answer a question himself
also showing how while some of us on here have indeed never been to a fight, they do not act like the be all end all Horus does
this is sort of my completion of this lesson
class?
dismissed
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