Excuses for Rafa marquez.

[Pin Galarga]

stating facts is not an excuse.
rafa is obviously past his best. he is 35 years old compared to juanma who's 27. rafa's been fighting for 15 years to juanma's 5 years. rafa has fought 44 times to juanma's 29. rafa's 5'5" and on to his 3rd career fighting weight. juanma's 5'7" and obviously is the bigger guy especially on fight time.

there's no secret that juanma is favored to win this fight. if rafa loses just bring up these facts...you don't need excuses. but if juanma loses, you better get ready with your excuses.

Then I ask, When was Rafa's prime??

[Cafe]

If gamboa fights john next year,I expect juanma to fight caballero.Theres
not other choices.Rojas is injured at the moment,Juanma beating cab will
be p4p in my books.But he needs to take the challenge.

by March next year will could see Juanma vs Gamboa.

[Eaner0919]

Im glad you mentioned Bernard before I did.

Ok , I admit , rafa might be past his prime. But what was his prime , taking 10 more punches per round , his skill level even when prime is not the same as lopez man , common get real.

that's myopic and typical

at his best Rafa was a very high powered offensive fighter who took on the caliber fighters JuanMa has yet to fight.

Is funny becayse juan manuel marquez , another future hof boxer , who happens to be his brother , said his brother still has plenty left in the tank.

not for nothing but what did you expect him to say?

"no my brother is shot and I wish he would stop"

? lol @ your idiocy

So what does that tell you?

But if we say it , its because we are rican.

no it's because you are myopic and typically island centric just like a lot of the Mexican fans are the same for their fighters

Rafa has been in some wars , yes. But he had a long layoff. came back and won some relatively easy fights.

are you kidding?

Johnson 2x
Mabuza 2x
Austin
Vazquez 3x (4th was a wipeout)

that right there is 8 fights where Rafa had to dig deep.

and he won against a non descript fighter and an even more faded Vazquez

you really want to determine he is ready for JuanMa from those two fights?

really?

If he was really that good , and that talented , that savy , he would find a way just like Bernard has challenged age and has done it.

so wait didn't you just own yourself

on one hand you are calling this a great fight for JuanMa one where we should give JuanMa all the credit in the world if he wins and then it was backed up by PinHead Galarga

YET

no you allude to him never being that good to begin with?

which is it?

you guys are funny and very easy to shoot down

Thats all im saying.

no you are saying that no matter what you are going to call JuanMa's drubbing of Rafa significant when it clearly isn't

his best days? What were his best days? When he fought Izzy?

you tell me Mr Expert since you seemingly know more about Rafa than fans who actually watched him with interest

So thats all he was capable of doing?

of being a 2 division champ beating the likes of Too Sharp Austin Mabuza and Izzy?

I would venture to say if JuanMa ends up with a similar resume you will be singing his praises as one of PR's best

To some Juanma is a hype job. So the experienced great rafa should find a way to make it happen.

and those who do that are as idiotic as you are in saying Rafa is a true test for JuanMa

I take his brothers words over some of the posters on here.

how convenient taking the word of someone who probably has never said a bad word about him ever.

keep spinning this

[JOZ]

Rafa Marquez still wants to fight , he is still hungry. His brother said he still has plenty and the fight could go either way.

But the experts here say he is shot. He is past his prime. He is too small , etc etc etc.

I think they are creating a handle so when Rafa gets whooped they can all use it. And say , " I told you so"

Once again , not giving Juanma any credit.

So what will be the #1 excuse coming from those sorry pathetic bad loser ****s.

Rafa is way past it but i will give Lopez props only if he KO's him. If this fight in anyway is a close fight or goes the distance then Lopez is not all that the rican paint him to be. This Fight is to make lopez look good and nothing else. I'm really looking forward to seeing this fight anyways.

[jrosales13]

there wont be any excuse. Because it wont happen.

rafa is getting destroyed at the hands of a hard hitting eyebrow shaver , which is what ****s cant stand.

What are you saying then? That Rafa has no chance?

Then if Rafa has no chance of winning, that means Juanma is cherry picking.

And, if Juanma is cherry picking fighting a guy with Zero chances of winning. Then you know what he doesn't deserve any credit for the win.

[pistol whip]

I agree with your point. Marquez didn't look shot to me, Vazquez did but yes, I agree that the excuses have already been build to discredit Juanma if HE wins.
Kind of sad that some of his fans that are more interested on making their point of the Great rivary, than supporting one of the best champions they have today.
Sadly Marquez gets more credit from Puerto Ricans that He gets from his own people.
I see the fight 50/50 and only hope my roster gets the win, but I know that its an uphill fight due to the experience and skills of the Mexican Champion.
Its a toss up and Juanma should get FULL credit if He can beat the great champion.

I guess the 4 wars with Izzy didn't happen and he's not shop worn after all.

[ELHURACAN58]

I remember Rafa saying that Juan Manuel Marquez was looking really strong for the Mayweather match...

You sound as if the wars he had against Vazquez were nothing impressive. Fights like those take a lot from a boxer. The only fight Juanma can claim to have been a war was against Rogers Fucking Mtagwa. If Juanma beats Rafa, he gets all the credit he deserves. This doesn't take away the fact that Marquez is past his prime.

You say that Juanma is better than Rafa prime or not. Based on what?

I personally base the fact that Juanma is better than Marquez prime or not, on his undefeated record, the fact he hasnt been koed by bums, and because he hasnt needed to comeback to win fights.

Also Juanma is stronger than anybody Marquez faced in his prime.

[-Johannes-]

Then I ask, When was Rafa's prime??

Don't you always brag about being a boxing fan since the 60s or something like that? There's no excuse for you clamining that Rafa isn't past his prime. Although Rafas is a dangerous puncher, it's no secret that Juanma is the favorite for the reasons previously stated on the topic.
You should know this.

[Cafe]

Marquez is a bum. He fought bums all his career, no names, never did nothing, but go to war with Vasquez, now he is shot, right after facing Vazquez. The first time he went up in class he went to war that shot him lol

[jrosales13]

Then I ask, When was Rafa's prime??

Bantamweight/SBW.

I don't think he is shot but he is not prime. He is clearly past it. But, I do think he has some left to make the fight interesting since Juanma is vulnerable IMO.