Koncz admits Manny refused full random testing

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  • mikemurni
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    #71
    Originally posted by davis828
    Why wouldn't you include what seems to be the most logical person in Mayweather's camp knowing, or in your case, not, that Ellerbe has been Mayweather's adviser throughout the bulk of his career?

    If you're acknowledging and respecting the statement that Ellerbe put out claiming he had no idea about negotiations, than cheers to making Arum look like a bigger dirtbag [if that's possible].

    Mayweather was never in negotiations. Greenberg and Schaeffer perhaps because they realize that they need Mayweather. Haymon, I doubt would be sliding messages to Mayweather's camp because if you noticed, Mayweather was doing a lot of hanging out with Don King, somebody Haymon's in competition with.
    Al Haymon is the man in Mayweather that has the most say in regards to Floyd's career even *****s would admit that. He negotiates contract in behalf of Floyd and is also very close with HBO's Kerry Davis which means he yields so much influence on HBO...

    I mean common sense would dictate that the first person that Greenburg would approach would be Haymon, right. I mean Greenburg is not that dumb to approach somebody like Ellerbe first, right?

    So if a guy like Greenburg says there was negotiation that took place, then you know that he went to the right people which will definitely include Al Haymon..

    You mention Don King, and yet until now he is still with Haymon even after all the wining and dining, Why is that??

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    • Chuckguy
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      #72
      all I have to say is where are all of mannys fans on this site?
      what do they have to say now that Kontz came out in front of everyone on HBO's 24/7 saying that they only agreed to a 7 day cut off?
      hahaha
      WOW
      I tell you Manny is just like Floyd

      But come on Floyd 7days really?
      an asprin cant take effect in 7 days
      hahahah

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #73
        So here we are agaim right back where we were in March, except floyd has a serious legal issue this time. Manny refuses to take random tests and floyd refuses to offer another compromise because his last compromise offer was rejected. So after manny beats Marg we will have Manny?cotto 2 and floyd/winner of martinez v williams. Yay!

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        • Alibata
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          #74
          Originally posted by olbanarts
          1) An obvious misunderstanding from Oscar who was hoping to get paid off the fight and was doing his job promoting it in hopes it would materialize.

          2) The "gag" was issued by Bob Arum and Floyd fans were questioning Arum himself for breaking his own rule.

          3) if Ross believed that sending team Mayweather a list of terms that team Pacquiao would agree to (as they admitted they did) was "negotiating" then he was wrong. To send somebody a list of things you will do is not negotiating.

          4) They wanted a 7 day cut-off. Thus... all the talk from Pacquiao fans about Manny agreeing to all Mayweather's demands have been proven false.
          I am sure, Greenburg, the head of a major cable channel knows more about what a negotiation is then someone that probably makes minimum wage flipping burgers posting on this mb.
          Last edited by Alibata; 10-25-2010, 11:42 AM.

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          • Alibata
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            #75
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Well said.
            Says the man who fell for that post hook line and sinker.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #76
              Originally posted by Alibata
              Says the man who fell for that post hook line and sinker.
              Manny agreed to full testing! What do you *****s have to say now, huh?

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              • Alibata
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                #77
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Manny agreed to full testing! What do you *****s have to say now, huh?

                Figures, If you guys can believe Roger and Sr. why not a guy that prepares Pacquiao's food and cuts his steaks for a living.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Alibata
                  Figures, If you guys can believe Roger and Sr. why not a guy that prepares Pacquiao's food and cuts his steaks for a living.
                  He finally agreed!

                  Whooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

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                  • Alibata
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    He finally agreed!

                    Whooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
                    What that black eyed koncz is more credible then the Mayweathers? I would give his words slightly more weight but would rather have someone else confirm it like Manny Pacquiao himself who said he agreed to everything.

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                    • deejd
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by mikemurni
                      Al Haymon is the man in Mayweather that has the most say in regards to Floyd's career even *****s would admit that. He negotiates contract in behalf of Floyd and is also very close with HBO's Kerry Davis which means he yields so much influence on HBO...

                      I mean common sense would dictate that the first person that Greenburg would approach would be Haymon, right. I mean Greenburg is not that dumb to approach somebody like Ellerbe first, right?

                      So if a guy like Greenburg says there was negotiation that took place, then you know that he went to the right people which will definitely include Al Haymon..

                      You mention Don King, and yet until now he is still with Haymon even after all the wining and dining, Why is that??
                      You're absolutely right in regards to Haymon taking care of Mayweather's contracts over his last couple of fights, that doesn't mean that Mayweather was aware of discussions. Why do think fighters have been shafted in the past by managers?

                      I'm not saying this is the case, Haymon, Greenberg, Schaeffer, DLH, Arum, Koncz, Ariza, Roach, Pacquiao, all of them could've dressed up and had a tea party on numerous occasions, Mayweather and his team never entertained the idea. Haymon could relay the message from the party, "hey Floyd, they want a seven day cut off date", and Mayweather's camp could have heard the message and simply ignored it.

                      Why?

                      Because that was not the deal. Mayweather issued a challenge to Pacquiao after he beat Mosley to go through the same testing they subjected themselves to. If they say anything other than "You got a deal, no cutoff date", then there's no negotiation.

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