Why dearth of Black heavyweights?

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  • Who are you?
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    #111
    The problem is,

    Its not just heavyweights that Europeans have taken over.

    Cruiser, Super Mid, Mid are all dominated by Euros

    Yes, maybe some black americans go into the NFL and thats why theres no heavyweights.

    But that argument doesnt hold true for the rest of boxing, and smaller divisions

    and the fact is Europeans have been owning Americans repeatedly for like 10 years now

    lol...

    Sorry but its true. Europeans have taken over boxing, and this trend will only INCREASE because what we see in AMs now will show itself in pros in 5, 10 yrs time.

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      #112
      Look. Europeans are dominating increasinlgy in every weight class.

      So, NBA NFL wont steal US middleweights or super mids, or even cruisers. But still Euros dominate those classes.

      Heres the truth:

      Euros are simply better at boxing these days. Better skilled & better trained thus they are defeating americans.

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        #113
        There isn't one athletic black HW. They all go to other sports. It's clear as day. When an athletic kid see's Adrian Peterson, KJ, Vick, Lebron James, and Kevin Durant and Anthony on TV they will try to be like them. When the HW's of the past were around all kids wanted to be heavyweight champion; now they see british jokes like Dvid haye, and a 100 year old Holyfield, so they play other sports.

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          #114
          Originally posted by americanbot
          OMG.



          as a kid. berry sanders INSPIRED me to play football. i use to watch him as a kid in AW. anyone will tell you that kids are like sponges. they suck up what they see. when jordan came every young black kid wanted to be like mike & NO LONGER LIKE ALI. my generation of black kids i can honestly say didn't even care about boxing after jordan took off.

          not only that but there is a ALL around lack of interest after the 90's not just with the heavyweight division but black fighters have went down in general when it comes to the talent level & selection.

          THIS IS WHERE THE REAL TRUTH RESIDES.

          but if we were to go by your logic.

          the division is NOT weak & the "klit" bros are just simply dominating & would have done the same in any era. (i know you didn't say this but I'm gonna throw this in there just for a thought) & "eastern Europeans have taken over"

          boxing has been through a million eras. NOT ONE eastern European came close to dominating. but what i consider the weakest division of the sport & entire heavyweight history...OH NOW 2 brothers are dominating. typical.

          I'm not saying that the klit bros aren't good but you have to come with facts & logic.

          otherwise you're gonna look like a crazed loony who's making comments PURELY on butt hurt emotions.
          They might have dominated in any era because this era is typical of HW boxing, a couple guys on top and the rest way far behind them.

          Eastern Europeans couldn't compete in pro boxing through all of these millions of eras you speak of but coincidentally are doing well since they can now for the past 20 years.

          At the end of the day this whole the best black athletes are in other sports excuse to explain away Wlad and Vitali's dominance over the division is a baseless theory explaining why a person who doesn't exist(a current great black HW) isn't in existence and that is just silly.

          Someone will come along eventually but he will be a great fighter because he trained his ass off, has talent, and the heart of a champion but not because of his skin color or ethnic background.

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            #115
            I didn't know Valuev was a basketballer.

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              #116
              Originally posted by Who are you?
              The problem is,

              Its not just heavyweights that Europeans have taken over.

              Cruiser, Super Mid, Mid are all dominated by Euros

              Yes, maybe some black americans go into the NFL and thats why theres no heavyweights.

              But that argument doesnt hold true for the rest of boxing, and smaller divisions

              and the fact is Europeans have been owning Americans repeatedly for like 10 years now

              lol...

              Sorry but its true. Europeans have taken over boxing, and this trend will only INCREASE because what we see in AMs now will show itself in pros in 5, 10 yrs time.



              WROOONG

              the heavyweight division is dominated by euros sure enough (the number one guy in heavyweight is actually euro too) but Cruiser, Super Mid, & Mid aren't.

              i believe the number one fighter @ super mid is ward (a american)

              i believe Martinez is the number one guy at mid (none euro)

              Cruiser. i have Cunningham as the number one in that division (american)

              if you wanna go further.

              i believe bradley is the number one fighter @ jr welter (american)

              i believe mayweather/manny are the top welters in that division (american) (none euro)


              it's funny when idiots try to compare a GIANT continent (such as europe) to a SINGLE COUNTRY (america) & still end up getting butt ****d LOL a better comparison (since america's just a PUNY country compared to europe) would be to add puerto rico, south america & mexico to "america" as a fighting comparison. it wouldn't even be A contest LOL

              in closing.....


              leave the drugs alone......
              Last edited by americanbot; 10-25-2010, 12:58 AM.

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                #117
                The reason there is many successful african american athletes is not because african people have better genetics, but the group of africans transported to america to work as ****** does.

                This is because, firstly, the slave traders looked for the strongest, fittest looking men and the most healthy, fertile women.

                Secondly, the conditions on the boat were terrible, diasease, poor food. Only the healthiest with strong immune systems made it.

                Third, the ****** were worked like dogs, and led active lifestyles which developed their bodies. Not saying they evolved, but strong, hardened people who are fit tend to produce children with greater capibilities to be strong, healthy and fit.

                So there you have it. If eskimos had been rounded up in the same way, there would be a population of athletic eskimos.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by spray_resistant
                  they might have dominated in any era because this era is typical of hw boxing, a couple guys on top and the rest way far behind them.

                  eastern europeans couldn't compete in pro boxing through all of these millions of eras you speak of but coincidentally are doing well since they can now for the past 20 years.

                  At the end of the day this whole the best black athletes are in other sports excuse to explain away wlad and vitali's dominance over the division is a baseless theory explaining why a person who doesn't exist(a current great black hw) isn't in existence and that is just silly.

                  Someone will come along eventually but he will be a great fighter because he trained his ass off, has talent, and the heart of a champion but not because of his skin color or ethnic background.

                  i stop reading right there> your bais towards these fighters have turned you into a vegetable.

                  You just proved that you actually know very little about the sport of boxing or the history of the heavyweight division. You are merly a mordern day nut hugger.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by americanbot
                    i stop reading right there> your bais towards these fighters have turned you into a vegetable.

                    You just proved that you actually know very little about the sport of boxing or the history of the heavyweight division. You are merly a mordern day nut hugger.
                    Says the poster defending fighters who don't even exist.

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                      #120
                      They're all playing basketball and football, black kids are CRAZY athletic. IDK what it is but yea, this is coming from a hispanic person btw. Just go ahead and watch a high school or even a middle school basketball game, I guarantee you the black kid will be the most athletic one on the court.

                      They say that high cheekbones=high testosterone, and a large amount of male AA's have high cheekbones. People with high testosterone are the ones who build muscle more easily and are generally more athletic.


                      My little brother is 6'4, 13 years old and 240lbs. I tried to get him interested in boxing but he didn't like it, you know why? Because boxing is TOUGH. Every day you push yourself to the limit, take punches in the face and body, it's tiring. Not only that but you have to have access to a gym, the closest gym is a couple miles away from my house.

                      Anyways I tried to get him into boxing but he didn't like it and was more interested in basketball. Why? Basketball is fun, all his friends play it and all you need to play is a court and a ball which is pretty common here. It's all on TV as well, basketball is incredibly popular in America, ESPECIALLY amongst the AA community.


                      All the genetic freaks out there are playing sports that suit their genetics, basketball, football etc. Just look at the size of these guys, they're freaken huge! Lebron James is 6'8 and 265lbs of muscle and is one of the fastest players in the NBA.

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