Why dearth of Black heavyweights?

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  • WladIsTheChamp
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    #41
    Originally posted by Check
    I really don't dislike white fighters, it's the fact that I find them boring and less skillful as blacks. White fighters are just not coordinated very well and overall brawlers. I'm a fan of skill and the sweet science, which not many whites can perform it at the highest level.
    Oh really, isn't that why racists like you criticize Wlad and Vitaly? Because they are too technical and not brawlers? Even though they have 86% and 88% KO ratios and yet you find Mayweather type of fighter exciting?

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    • Bastian Loc
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      #42
      Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
      Really? He doesn't like European boxers though I've noticed.
      That's cuz' Check is all "America **** yeah".

      I don't think its necessarily a racial thing, since he's a honkey, he's just nationalistic.

      I found his picture online.


      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      But yeah when Michael Jordan burst on the scne he almost single handedly made boxing irrelevant in the black community. Everyone wanted to be a basketball player.
      Nick Van Exel is the reason I used to hit the playground.

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      • nomadman
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        #43
        Originally posted by malikomoman
        You cant just transition to boxing after failing another sport

        i mean you can but you will be behind by miles

        You have to start boxing at a very young age
        Sergio Martinez did alright. But he was a former soccer player so I guess it doesn't count.

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        • malikomoman
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          #44
          Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
          LOL, so that's the reason, we found the culprit for the decline of US black HWs - Michael Jordan, DAMN HIM!!!!! LOL

          On a serious note, maybe something a little bigger happened, just a little bigger, maybe not as big as Michael Jordan, but big nevertheless. You ever heard of that little country called the Soviet Union? It fell apart in 1990, and boxers from there, big athletic boxers with excellent amateur pedigrees started fighting pro, whereas before they were prohibited from doing so. But nah, that wasn't it, you probably right, it was Michael Jordan.
          This is what you want to believe it lol but the fact remains....if we still had the tyson,holyfield,etc caliber heavyweights today, eastern europeans would be dropping like flies

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            #45
            Originally posted by Check
            I really don't dislike white fighters, it's the fact that I find them boring and less skillful as blacks. White fighters are just not coordinated very well and overall brawlers. I'm a fan of skill and the sweet science, which not many whites can perform it at the highest level.
            That's racist.

            Black people do on average have proportionately longer arms and legs, but athleticism and coordination has nothing whatsoever to do with race.

            Have you ever seen Bute, Pirog, Wlad, Cleverly, Calzaghe, Dzinziruk, Lomachenko, etc?

            In the US the white boxers are not as good because it's not really a white man's sport. But fighters like Gene Tunney and Willie Pep back in the day were very athletic.

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              #46
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              I know that. More Euro fighters have nothing to do with the fact the most athletic black athletes for the most part play football or basketball. Its a fact.
              James Toney

              Bernard Hopkins

              Roy Jones

              Soccer

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                #47
                Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
                That's racist.

                Black people do on average have proportionately longer arms and legs, but athleticism and coordination has nothing whatsoever to do with race.

                Have you ever seen Bute, Pirog, Wlad, Cleverly, Calzaghe, Dzinziruk, Lomachenko, etc?

                In the US the white boxers are not as good because it's not really a white man's sport. But fighters like Gene Tunney and Willie Pep back in the day were very athletic.
                Also i believe upbringing has alot to do with it

                Alot of black fighters come from rough,impoverished backrounds

                same as alot of these fighters from eastern europe

                Back in the day it was usually the same for the italians

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  I know that. More Euro fighters have nothing to do with the fact the most athletic black athletes for the most part play football or basketball. Its a fact.
                  So you can't put two and two together then? You don't think there is a correlation that prior to 1990, when no boxers from the Soviet Union were allowed to box pro held belts, then all of a sudden in a span of a couple of years, after 1990, when the Soviet Union collapsed, they flodded the pro ranks and started getting belts in almost all weight classes and now dominate some divisions? Instead you think it's Michael Jordan....

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by malikomoman
                    This is what you want to believe it lol but the fact remains....if we still had the tyson,holyfield,etc caliber heavyweights today, eastern europeans would be dropping like flies
                    If Ping Pong weren't so big in China the whole world's boxers would be dropping like flies.

                    Don't forget the debilitating effect Cricket has on the Indian athletic pool of potential HW world beaters.

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                    • Bastian Loc
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
                      That's racist.

                      Black people do on average have proportionately longer arms and legs, but athleticism and coordination has nothing whatsoever to do with race.

                      Have you ever seen Bute, Pirog, Wlad, Cleverly, Calzaghe, Dzinziruk, Lomachenko, etc?

                      In the US the white boxers are not as good because it's not really a white man's sport. But fighters like Gene Tunney and Willie Pep back in the day were very athletic.
                      Good post Tunney.

                      Check is trippin'.

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