Roach, Psychological Warfare, and the Power Of Suggestion!!!

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  • Sugar Sting Ray
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    Roach, Psychological Warfare, and the Power Of Suggestion!!!

    The famous self help guru Napoleon Hill said, "Whatever your mind believes, it will become!"

    Earl Nightingale said, "You become what you think about!"

    In psychology, they call it a "self-fulfilling prophecy" or the "placebo effect". Where, through the power of suggestion and affirmation, a person begins to believe something that isn't true and sure enough it becomes true. Advertisers, cult leaders and other influencers have used this to control people in the past. In fact, people have been cured of hopeless illnesses based on affirmation and of taking placebo pills which they thought were potent but were in fact just made of sugar. But they believed that they were real medicines and they wound up getting healed not by the fake medicine but by their belief that those medicines were real and powerful.

    Enter Freddie Roach. He tells Hatton, Cotto, De La Hoya, and others, that they are no longer threats and they believe it, at least at the subconscious level. As a result, they break down psychologically and what Roach tells them is true becomes true.

    Of course, Roach really knows that they are indeed threats. But like a doctor giving his patients placebos, he tells them they aren't and they believe it. Once this happens, what Roach tells them becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Roach has been accused by morons of flip flopping. Nothing can be further from the truth. The fact was Roach knew that Hatton, Cotto, De La Hoya, and now Margarito were/are major threats. But he tells them - BEFORE THE FIGHT - that they're not and they believe the lie. In fact, Roach's brainwashing of them gives them an excuse to lose even before they fight Pacquiao.

    No, Roach is not a flip flopper as the moronic *****s would have you believe. He is merely a great psychological strategist that appreciates and wields the power of suggestion to convince in prime fighters that they are no longer in their primes, that "they don't have it anymore".

    Which brings us to that woman beater Floyd Mayweather. This son of a criminal drug dealer felon ex-convict is still in his prime. But by the time he enters the ring against Pacquiao, he will be convinced of Roach's brainwash attack "Mayweather no longer has legs" and believe in it so that it will actually influence his thinking. And that's when he will lose. Roach will be called a flip flopper by all of the supporters of the woman beater, but Roach knows he is simply using psychological warfare.
  • Phil Ivey
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    #2
    Nope, he actually says these things because it's true. Stop trying to make excuses.

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    • -PANDA-
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      #3
      the self fulfilling prophecy has nothing to do with placebo effects...its a human interaction thing where ones believes about the other person subliminally affect the believes of the person he/she is interacting with

      go read up on ur psychology

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      • SuckaPunch
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        #4
        greatest psychological warfare quote of all time...

        "i saw your last two fights"

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          #5
          Originally posted by Sugar Sting Ray
          The famous self help guru Napoleon Hill said, "Whatever your mind believes, it will become!"

          Earl Nightingale said, "You become what you think about!"

          In psychology, they call it a "self-fulfilling prophecy" or the "placebo effect". Where, through the power of suggestion and affirmation, a person begins to believe something that isn't true and sure enough it becomes true. Advertisers, cult leaders and other influencers have used this to control people in the past. In fact, people have been cured of hopeless illnesses based on affirmation and of taking placebo pills which they thought were potent but were in fact just made of sugar. But they believed that they were real medicines and they wound up getting healed not by the fake medicine but by their belief that those medicines were real and powerful.

          Enter Freddie Roach. He tells Hatton, Cotto, De La Hoya, and others, that they are no longer threats and they believe it, at least at the subconscious level. As a result, they break down psychologically and what Roach tells them is true becomes true.

          Of course, Roach really knows that they are indeed threats. But like a doctor giving his patients placebos, he tells them they aren't and they believe it. Once this happens, what Roach tells them becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

          Roach has been accused by morons of flip flopping. Nothing can be further from the truth. The fact was Roach knew that Hatton, Cotto, De La Hoya, and now Margarito were/are major threats. But he tells them - BEFORE THE FIGHT - that they're not and they believe the lie. In fact, Roach's brainwashing of them gives them an excuse to lose even before they fight Pacquiao.

          No, Roach is not a flip flopper as the moronic *****s would have you believe. He is merely a great psychological strategist that appreciates and wields the power of suggestion to convince in prime fighters that they are no longer in their primes, that "they don't have it anymore".

          Which brings us to that woman beater Floyd Mayweather. This son of a criminal drug dealer felon ex-convict is still in his prime. But by the time he enters the ring against Pacquiao, he will be convinced of Roach's brainwash attack "Mayweather no longer has legs" and believe in it so that it will actually influence his thinking. And that's when he will lose. Roach will be called a flip flopper by all of the supporters of the woman beater, but Roach knows he is simply using psychological warfare.
          You want to suck my ****.

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          • Pacquiao'd
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            #6
            Originally posted by Rbgnwo
            You want to suck my ****.
            youre ****. just sayin

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            • Sugar Sting Ray
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              #7
              Originally posted by Phil Ivey
              Nope, he actually says these things because it's true. Stop trying to make excuses.

              Roach has the *****s fooled too. Very effective propagandist this Roach.

              And Durrr beat Ivey any day.

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              • tibbar
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                so, meaning, margarito is using the power of suggestion too? he was saying hell knock out pacquiao, so whoever is weak mentally is the one who will lose on nov 13? margs coach is also employing the same tactic by saying he is ahead of score against roach 2-0 or something. yeah maybe i agree with you, boxing today is mental as much as physical. fighters and boxers that are dominating or will dominate are those with high intelligence or high IQ and EQ.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  it's not the placebo effect that you are describing. it's the nacebo effect. placebo is always positive and the final outcome should be a positive result. the nacebo effect is the negative counterpart of placebos in that the final outcome is always negative.

                  very similar to voodoo curses. the curse is worthless, but if you believe in it, it effects you.

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                  • Sugar Sting Ray
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    it's not the placebo effect that you are describing. it's the nacebo effect. placebo is always positive and the final outcome should be a positive result. the nacebo effect is the negative counterpart of placebos in that the final outcome is always negative.

                    very similar to voodoo curses. the curse is worthless, but if you believe in it, it effects you.
                    Roach, because deep inside, even those who hate him, know he knows his stuff because his track record gives him an aura of 'authority' even if it is only at the unconscious level of those that he is trying to influence, is very very very persuasive. I'm sure Floyd and Co. are probably conscious about the power of his legs which Roach refers to as "no longer there". Floyd might deny it and even talk trash but that nacebo belief will be gnawing at his belief systems and the more he denies it the more it will affect him. Yes, its similar to voodoo where an "authority" (shaman) convinces the victim that he is sick and sure enough he dies.

                    It works subconsciously. Hatton, Oscar, and Cotto consciously denied it but their unconscious minds were convinced of the false beliefs that Roach brainwashed into them.

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