who do you feel are the top five most protected and/or overhyped fighters?

[J !]

riptor not being funny you coudl have hatton in pre the Zoo fight, but you cant say he is proetected after stepping ion the ring with the then Number one in the division, what do you want him to do, fight Vitali?

[Riptor]

riptor not being funny you coudl have hatton in pre the Zoo fight, but you cant say he is proetected after stepping ion the ring with the then Number one in the division, what do you want him to do, fight Vitali?

Now this I can repsect and can respond to. instead of Mckays childish rants about me being a racist. Anyway I dont think that Hatton is a bad fighter in fact he gained a lot of respect from me. The only thing that I feel now is that yes he did beat one fighter and a great fighter at that. However he still has yet to beat another person. I simply don't agree with many who now proclaim him as the greatest 140 pounder in the last 100 years etc. He beat one great figheter. if he can beat a few of them then yes he deserves the title of best 140 pounder ever. I am not saying thta he doesnt deserve much accolade as he does deserve a hell of a lot of credit and I give it to him. but best and unbeatable etc are not titles he should receive just yet. If he can convincigly beat one or two more of the top notch guys out there then he will be ranked amongst the greatest.

[The Troll]

. I simply don't agree with many who now proclaim him as the greatest 140 pounder in the last 100 years etc. .

Name one person who declared Hatton that (The best 140 pounder in 100 years). Kostya Tzyu TKO 2 Zab Judah, Judah is by many ranked higher than Hatton P4P. Hatton TKO 10 Tzyu, in a relatively short timespan.

This is one of amongst many reasons why I say Judah is extremely overhyped. TKO 2 loss to Tzyu recently, and a UD loss to Spinks recently and he was knocked down in UD loss to Spinks.

[J !]

Riptor,.fair comment dude, not gonna comment on other people this place seems to be kicking off every day and ive been guilty of that in the past so am now not going to bother in getting involved where i can help it. Posters will know if i have respect for them as i will talk to them.

fair comment in your post there, just dont think he is protected anymore. Hatton dos need more big fights totally agree, they will come next year, expect a marking time fight in Manc in Oct/ Nov follwoed by a biggie next spring in BVegas, hopefully.

ill be there should this happen.

[The Troll]

[QUOTE=Riptor]QUOTE]

Serioulsy name one person on this forum who ever declared Hatton as the best 140 pound fighter ever. You talk in your previous post as if its a common occurance around here. What the f**K line of argument is this. It is a f***Ing **** one.

I simply don't agree with many who now proclaim him as the greatest 140 pounder in the last 100 years etc. there be ranked amongst the greatest.

f***king ridiculous ****.

[Riptor]

You adjusted the list because you knew you looked like a "homer" having a list completely devoid of black or latino fighters. You knew somebody would call you on so you wised up.

I honestly dont care who calls me on what. I have kept and stuck to my guns on all post. Even post where I called sugar ray leonard a ****** drug using bastard. I recieved much flack on that post and much negative karma. If I were so worried about that, I would not have the red bar that you all think hurts me in some way. I dont give a hoot about the red bar, what anyone else on this site especially you (A sniveling kid who needs to finish the 3rd grade), thinks of me or worrying about this simple minded groupthink theory. you see unlike me, you and many others on this site will simply follow whatever the group feels and change your opinions based on the group concensus, this helps you to keep a blue bar and a well liked status. Obviously you are looking to pick a fight with me for some reason and you have some agenda as to trying to make me out to be the enemy here and to make me out to be a racist. Ok I will play your little childish game kiddo. whoo hoo you figured me out mckay you got it man, my list was devoid of latino and black fighters because it was all part of my big shceme to get back at the "man" now I can take over the world and remove all black and latino people from list all over the world. Boy you are way too smart for me man.. how could I have ever fooled you?

You see Mckay I think you are an ok kid, and I have no war with you. there is no reason to try to get into one with me. Foolishly however you continue to try to push my buttons and make an enemy out of me. You are very childish and your statements support this. (Oh boy a "homer" man you are really doing it now mckay if you keep it up I will get my black panther party to start the next internal war) grow up man.

[The Troll]

I honestly dont care who calls me on what. I have kept and stuck to my guns on all post. Even post where I called sugar ray leonard a ****** drug using bastard. I recieved much flack on that post and much negative karma. If I were so worried about that, I would not have the red bar that you all think hurts me in some way. I dont give a hoot about the red bar, what anyone else on this site especially you (A sniveling kid who needs to finish the 3rd grade), thinks of me or worrying about this simple minded groupthink theory. you see unlike me, you and many others on this site will simply follow whatever the group feels and change your opinions based on the group concensus, this helps you to keep a blue bar and a well liked status. Obviously you are looking to pick a fight with me for some reason and you have some agenda as to trying to make me out to be the enemy here and to make me out to be a racist. Ok I will play your little childish game kiddo. whoo hoo you figured me out mckay you got it man, my list was devoid of latino and black fighters because it was all part of my big shceme to get back at the "man" now I can take over the world and remove all black and latino people from list all over the world. Boy you are way too smart for me man.. how could I have ever fooled you?

You see Mckay I think you are an ok kid, and I have no war with you. there is no reason to try to get into one with me. Foolishly however you continue to try to push my buttons and make an enemy out of me. You are very childish and your statements support this. (Oh boy a "homer" man you are really doing it now mckay if you keep it up I will get my black panther party to start the next internal war) grow up man.

You use ****** disingenous argument tactics. This is what is defined as a "strawman" argument. Argueing against a point that has never been.



[QUOTE=Riptor]QUOTE]

Serioulsy name one person on this forum who ever declared Hatton as the best 140 pound fighter ever. You talk in your previous post as if its a common occurance around here. What the f**K line of argument is this. It is a f***Ing **** one.

This is what is defined as a "strawman" argument. Argueing against a point that has never been.

I simply don't agree with many who now proclaim him as the greatest 140 pounder in the last 100 years etc. there be ranked amongst the greatest.

[Riptor]

Name one person who declared Hatton that (The best 140 pounder in 100 years). Kostya Tzyu TKO 2 Zab Judah, Judah is by many ranked higher than Hatton P4P. Hatton TKO 10 Tzyu, in a relatively short timespan.

This is one of amongst many reasons why I say Judah is extremely overhyped. TKO 2 loss to Tzyu recently, and a UD loss to Spinks recently and he was knocked down in UD loss to Spinks.

figuratively speaking man (if I say I drank a whole ocean full of water its figurative speaking), I am too tired to write out long drawn out post as I have been awake almost 24 hours here. In another 3 I have to be back at work and have had no sleep. anyway, I also noted that I think hatton should receive much accolade just not as much as he has. he does deserve much credit and again I have said that I am giving him much credit. but I am waaay to sleepy to give a long explanatory post on all of the ramifications of it all. Honestly he falls more in the over-protected category as opposed to over-hype. Note the title says overprotected/overhyped. I said I give the man props? you are arguing that I feel that he is overhyped and I said many a time that i feel he deserves much accolade for that achievement so the straw is on your end my man. hold on I think my man was a direct qoute from that Malcolm x book that you say that I read.

[The Troll]

figuratively speaking man (if I say I drank a whole ocean full of water its figurative speaking), I am too tired to write out long drawn out post as I have been awake almost 24 hours here. In another 3 I have to be back at work and have had no sleep. anyway, I also noted that I think hatton should receive much accolade just not as much as he has. he does deserve much credit and again I have said that I am giving him much credit. but I am waaay to sleepy to give a long explanatory post on all of the ramifications of it all.

You said boxing press and people on this website declare in a consistant fashion that Hatton is the greatest 140 pound fighter ever. This is simply lying and nothing else. Because this argument has never been made by anybody. You created this statement to support your original premis that Hatton is overhyped. Hatton is the linear 140 Champion. He beat the guy who recently TKO 2 Zab Judah yet he is still ranked lower on alot of P4P lists than Judah. And you say he is overhyped.

[sanjayint]

because you British fans act like he's the greatest of all time now..

Hatton didn't destroy Tszyu either...

if you loooked at zoo's face after the fight, and i heard he pissed blood. when they said about havin a re-match, zoo wasnt to sure. hatton beat the best end of story, hatton may beat mayweather, who knows