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  • #11
    Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
    Shane Mosley already showed you can walk Margarito back. Manny has maybe the strongest legs in boxing. If Mosley can walk Margarito back, Manny can walk him back.
    Nah Shane is a all power type of guy, just swinging away. He walks everybody back.

    Manny has a different style and uses speed the most

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    • #12
      Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2 View Post
      Margarito is arguably one of the best if not THE best inside fighters we have seen at Welterweight. No other fighter can go toe to toe with Tony to the body and come out on top. Other fighters claim to have what it takes to go for the body but none can be as effective on the inside as Tony can, his plaster record speaks for itself.
      corrected...

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      • #13
        Shane fought the perfect fight against a drained and mentally broken Margarito, simple as that. Manny doesn't clinch and Manny can't fight going backwards, I bet anything that this fight is not going to be fought in the middle of the ring all night.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Markavelli View Post
          corrected...
          Whatever fuels your hatred bro.

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          • #15
            "don’t think it's any secret that Margarito was beginning struggle to make 147 pounds in his last three or four welterweight bouts."


            This is key....if he dries out too much making 150 he will certainly lose.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2 View Post
              Margarito is arguably one of the best if not THE best inside fighters we have seen at Welterweight. No other fighter can go toe to toe with Tony to the body and come out on top. Other fighters claim to have what it takes to go for the body but none can be as effective on the inside as Tony can, his track record speaks for itself.
              I thought P-Will did a good job and beat Tony fighting an inside game and going toe-to-toe

              Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2 View Post
              How do you turn a man who is physically bigger and taller than you for 12 hard fought rounds?? it might work for half of the fight, we know Pac has crazy stamina but if Tony puts the work in early like he did against Cotto, Manny is not gonna have that kind of control past the 7th or 8th round, specially at the speed rate Pac works at. No way in hell.
              Right, but IMO pac is just overall better than Cotto, he is faster than Cotto in both hand and foot speed. Where Pac could throw real quick and get out of the way before Marg could throw. Cotto did it a little bit but Pac would be even more successful cuz of his hand and foot speed, IMO Pac also has better defense in terms of head movement than Cotto does, And, for sure Pac has way and I mean way better stamina and IMO better punch resistance than Cotto does.

              I also think Pac would be much more discipline than he was against Clottey. He just tried to overwhelm Clottey. Because, Clottey is such a defense fighter that Pac was just throwing to keep Clottey in his shell. While with Marg I see him still being active but not throwing 1300 punches. So IMO he still will have that stamina at the end of the fight.

              Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2 View Post
              Shane fought the perfect fight against a drained and mentally broken Margarito, simple as that. Manny doesn't clinch and Manny can't fight going backwards, I bet anything that this fight is not going to be fought in the middle of the ring all night.
              He might not be able to fight backwards, but I think he can fight side to side, dash in and out in a flash. Just like he did against Oscar. For early in the fight he didn't come at Oscar coming forward. He used discipline and head movement. Now Margarito IMO is a much better fighter than that version of Oscar. However, my point is that Pac can fight going side to side and maybe even backwards. Who knows.

              It would be interesting though cuz Pac doesn't clinch. You right about that.

              All and all I think and hope it will be an entertaining fight. I can't wait got my tickets ready.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2 View Post
                Whatever fuels your hatred bro.
                then bet all your points bro - 400,000

                - referee will raise Manny's hand

                sig it!
                400,000 (Manny wins vs. Margs) - El 7 Mares V.2

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
                  shane mosley already showed you can walk margarito back. Manny has maybe the strongest legs in boxing. If mosley can walk margarito back, manny can walk him back.
                  manny is not physically as strong asmosley

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                  • #19
                    And in the mosley fight he was clearly drained..'his team bought a cheap ass scale and drained him for no reason

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      I thought P-Will did a good job and beat Tony fighting an inside game and going toe-to-toe



                      Right, but IMO pac is just overall better than Cotto, he is faster than Cotto in both hand and foot speed. Where Pac could throw real quick and get out of the way before Marg could throw. Cotto did it a little bit but Pac would be even more successful cuz of his hand and foot speed, IMO Pac also has better defense in terms of head movement than Cotto does, And, for sure Pac has way and I mean way better stamina and IMO better punch resistance than Cotto does.

                      I also think Pac would be much more discipline than he was against Clottey. He just tried to overwhelm Clottey. Because, Clottey is such a defense fighter that Pac was just throwing to keep Clottey in his shell. While with Marg I see him still being active but not throwing 1300 punches. So IMO he still will have that stamina at the end of the fight.



                      He might not be able to fight backwards, but I think he can fight side to side, dash in and out in a flash. Just like he did against Oscar. For early in the fight he didn't come at Oscar coming forward. He used discipline and head movement. Now Margarito IMO is a much better fighter than that version of Oscar. However, my point is that Pac can fight going side to side and maybe even backwards. Who knows.

                      It would be interesting though cuz Pac doesn't clinch. You right about that.

                      All and all I think and hope it will be an entertaining fight. I can't wait got my tickets ready.
                      You make good points, and I do favor Manny to win because I think he is the better fighter. Let me put it this way, when Tony went against Cotto I had no doubt in my mind that Tony was losing that fight, I can't say the same thing about Manny. However I think Tony is hungry, he is a man on a mission, is looking for redemption and despite it all he is still a monster and he is a lot bigger than Pac. I wouldn't be surprised if Tony miraculously pulls it off.

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