If Cotto is shot... then what is Mosley?

[Bastian Loc]

Old and shot.

[Real King Kong]

Cotto aint shot............they just hatin.........

i'm a big cotto fan...but the type of beating he took from margarito can make a man ask questions of himself. its not like he made a mistake and got KOd...he got mentally and physically broken down and beaten into submission. in my eyes cotto hasn't looked the same since.

[PRking718]

Cotto aint shot............they just hatin.........

I Dont think Cotto is shot, but the question is, how much doest he have left against LIVE dogs? He hasn't had the chance OR skill to show it lately - Margarito may have cheated bc as he said in the Pac Face Off, he doesnt know if he used the hand wraps before the Mosely fight. That, along with other things, tells me he most likely he used em on Cotto. Clottey fight - headbutt cut Cotto crazy he fought with one eye for most of the fight & he didn't quit but he backed up a lot, but its hard to blame him with that big cut and Clottey's hard shots. Jennings was weak - so he gets no credit, same thing with foreman - Haters call him the one legged, feather fisted ***, so Cotto gets NOOO credit for that win even tho he boxed the boxer out. For the Pac fight he clearly couldn't handle the skill and so people actually have a lot of reasons to think Cotto is shot - We have not seen him pound on a live, prime, hard hitting fighter in years - and the best recent memories of his performances were the fights he lost - fair or not. I feel bad for the guy, hopefull we can see him fight Angulo and some other tough Champs and win.

[Sweet Jesus]

I just find it strange that after Pacquiao ran through Cotto, the haters tried to take away from this victory by saying that Cotto was done, shot, past his prime, etc... at age 28-29, being active.

Then they try to legitimize Floyd beating a 38 year old Mosley who had been inactive for a year and 3 months, had gone through 2 training camps, and had suffered a back injury while sledding.

let's put that aside for now, let's just look at how they looked in their respective fights immediately after their losses:

Cotto vs Yuri Foreman (28-0, won WBA LMW championship in last bout):



Mosley vs Sergio Mora (22-1-1, best known for reality TV show 'The Contender')



Cotto, directly after losing to Pac, takes on a much bigger, slick, undefeated champion and after easily winning the first few rounds and looking great under Steward's tutelage, KOed him following a leg injury.

Mosley, on the other hand, struggled mightily against a weight-drained Mora, gassed after 4-5 rounds (just like he did against Floyd) then proceeded to throw weak pitty pat punches, struggle to breathe, and get hit flush by a man who admitted to taking it easy so as not to hurt Shane. In the end, after a horribly bad fight, a controversial draw was handed out.

So if Cotto is/was shot, then Mosley was bombarded with canons.

When was Vargas shot?

When was Hopkins shot?

[Spray_resistant]

I Dont think Cotto is shot, but the question is, how much doest he have left against LIVE dogs? He hasn't had the chance OR skill to show it lately - Margarito may have cheated bc as he said in the Pac Face Off, he doesnt know if he used the hand wraps before the Mosely fight. That, along with other things, tells me he most likely he used em on Cotto. Clottey fight - headbutt cut Cotto crazy he fought with one eye for most of the fight & he didn't quit but he backed up a lot, but its hard to blame him with that big cut and Clottey's hard shots. Jennings was weak - so he gets no credit, same thing with foreman - Haters call him the one legged, feather fisted ***, so Cotto gets NOOO credit for that win even tho he boxed the boxer out. For the Pac fight he clearly couldn't handle the skill and so people actually have a lot of reasons to think Cotto is shot - We have not seen him pound on a live, prime, hard hitting fighter in years - and the best recent memories of his performances were the fights he lost - fair or not. I feel bad for the guy, hopefull we can see him fight Angulo and some other tough Champs and win.

We are just going to have to wait for that answer but if you want bump some old threads from before the Yuri fight and plenty of ppl said that he was shot would be too slow and would get outboxed by Yuri.

Cotto only had 1 fight with Steward, maybe he will be a more complete fighter who knows because before the Marg fight he hadn't really improved at all from some of his early 140lb days.