Joan Guzman Couldv'e Been Great If Not For His Lack Of Discipline

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  • SuckaPunch
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    #21
    i often see people with the extreme talent or intelligence (in general) but lack the work ethic to succeed. conversely, there are also people that works hard but unfortunately lacks the talent/intelligence and often their success are limited also.

    agree with the TS, joan has the goods but not the work ethic

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    • | THE KING |
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      #22
      @ joan guzman. It's about accomplishments, not coulda/shoulda/woulda..

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      • Fox McCloud
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        #23
        Oh definitely. Humberto Soto hadn't lost in forever when they fought at 130 (the weight class where Soto was a formidable opponent), and he just outclassed him in every way.

        Guzman was P4P worthy in my opinion in talent.

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        • Spray_resistant
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          #24
          He had and I think still has the ability to do something more meaningful in the sport. Time is ticking though and it may be too late, its his fault and his only that he hasn't done more due to his own inactivity and lack of discipline.

          I still wonder what would have happened with the Campbell title fight had he been able to make weight.

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          • Eaner0919
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            #25
            Originally posted by TIP
            @ joan guzman. It's about accomplishments, not coulda/shoulda/woulda..
            right?

            I think there are actually some people in society as a whole when they know they are more talented in certain aspects they tend to slack in areas other than that because they know their talent brings them through things more often than not.

            Panchito Bojado is by far the most talented fighter I have seen in action (training wise talent wise and just a natural instinct for the sport) yet his work ethic was crap largely because he knew he could get by with being more talented than others. His career ended with no one caring and him being the butt of a lot of jokes locally

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            • CUNTLEE
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              #26
              Without dedication there can be no greatness

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              • GTL
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                #27
                I agree with the TS.. However.. I cant take him seriously anymore.. hes a 4-6 round fighter.. his conditioning is horrific, along with his weight and diet.. his lazyness was his downfall IMO..

                I was a big guzman fan up until he started f u c k i n g around with his weight. i dont blame his promotion problems ect.. he shouldve stuck with floyd sr.. He had it all.. sick defense, good chin, speed, power at the lower weights.. now hes a tubby man.. and keeps moving up in weight.. a waste

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                • Doctor_Tenma
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by killacash
                  I agree but he needs to ****in turn his punches over. He slaps too much.
                  Argenis Mendez is picking up that bad habit also. Atleast Guzman is working on that, I noticed in the rematch against Funeka.

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                  • Heru
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                    #29
                    Guzman didn't have raw talent, it was developed talent and he has skills to match. At 122, he would've destroyed pretty much anyone there. Under 135, he would've outboxed most.

                    Would've, could've, should've, is in the past though. Hopefully he's not too far past it or above a good weight for him to actually do damage. The way he fought against the huge Funeka tells me that he can still do damage up to 140, but he won't be able to do it in the same way he could'veif he did it below 135.

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                    • Swag Hustla
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by boxing2106
                      his mothers death from cancer really made him lose alot of motivation but now he is motivated ! but all in all hes had weight problems since forever he could never keep the weight down.. dominican food is a big factor in that... it tastes very very good
                      That's sounds tough for Guzman. We'll see in his next couple fights if he has regained that motivation he lost. Hopefully he has.

                      Never tried Dominican food. Sounds good though.

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