Dodger's 30 greatest heavyweights of all time

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16. Primo Carnera

Wow.

[Yogi]

but saying Marciano is the best heavyweight when he never fought any heavyweights is completely ******ed.

This thread is filled with more than just a little bit of ******ation, so there's no point in singling out that one guy.

[oldgringo]

My list:

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Foreman
Marciano
Johnson
Holyfield
Frazier
Lewis
Dempsey
Tyson
Patterson
Jeffries
Charles
Tunney

The last 5 were harder for me. I feel like Floyd should be higher than Tyson, but I just don't know.

[RastaSmoker]

Im ******? YOu have Rocky Marciano at no.1, you should be labeled the village idiot for that one. Not to mention Tyson would've eliminated him in a matter of rounds if they fought, and to add he fought a bunch of losers, and the only outstanding name on his record was Louis, who came out of retirement at age 39 to vs him. Being the youngest heavyweight champ with 10+ title defenses along with names such as SPinks, Holmes, Ruddock, Golota, Bruno, Tucker, Seldon, and Nielsen, definately merits you to be ahead over fighters that you listed. What you want to tell me that Frazier dempsey liston and Lewis achieved higher succes than Tyson? Other than Foreman who became the oldest heavyweight champ you have nothing on Tyson.

Not to mention you have Liston ahead of Holmes!!!!!!! Holmes had 20 title defenses and an undefeated record up to 48-0, not to mention has Ali (Past his prime though), Norton, and two hand fulls of top ten conteders on his list, and you rank Liston above him?

ok, here we go again. Another noob thinking he knows whats up.

Micheal spink when he fought tyson was an old 37, holmes was 39, Ruddock wasnt that good, golota has been beat by brewster, ruiz, grant, and lewis. any time he fought a top heavyweight he lost. Bruno never steeped up as a fighter and took on top talent. Tucker just like most you named never fought top notch guys. Seldon lost to tony tubbs. WHO? exactly. Not to mention a less then motivated Mccall. Nielsen like wise was a push over.

As for Marciano, when he fought Louis, louis was the same age as spinks, and two years younger then holmes when tyson beat them.
He also took on the top of his time. And the guys he didnt fight didnt wanna fight him. He dispatched of Moore, Charles, Lastarza twice, Jersey Joe walcott twice, Harry Matthews, and rex layne. All of which were considered by most then to be class A fighter.

Tyson on the other hand has Never beaten a true Class A Heavyweight. Every time he has stepped up he has been violently knocked back down. He couldnt beat a already worn and battered Holyfield. Tyson was nothin more then a average skilled fighter. All he ever had was power and speed. He could bomb on a Prime Frazier, Marciano, Holmes, Ali, Liston, and he still wouldnt win. Because the one thing all of those fighter have in common is that they werent afraid to go past three like tyson is. Especially Ali. He could hit him 10 rounds straight and then get KTFO in the 11. Tyson doesnt belong in the top 15 of all time. He dominated a EXTREMELY Soft HW division.

Just remember, just cause you go to boxrec, and dont recognize a lot of names from the old school, doesnt mean they werent any good. The only reason why you say he is better is because he is a modern day fighter and you dont know **** about boxing History