So if Margarito is so easy why did Team Pacquiao refuse 151 and want 149

[HandSpeed303]

Post 84 man. Keep up.

My case, rested.

Glad you feel better!

Now maybe you can stop ducking me.

No but serious, when you look back on this topic, and read through it, you will see the fool you made of yourself...Really.

[gapo]

Margarito cutting extra weight in camp will make him stronger? How did you come to that conclusion?

Most of Pacs fights have been under 135. Whats your point? Those days are long gone. Even against Mosley way back in January of 2009 Marg was struggling to hit 147 Pounds.

Why do you think after his lay off he came back at 154? Why after the lay off didnt he weigh in at 149?

You answered your own question then. They get bigger physically over time. But that does not translate into getting stronger. Same reason all these fighters go thru all those regimens and trains so hard to loose weight and
physically stronger be able to absorb blows to the head and body while dishing out blows to the opponent at the same time. margos style is get close enough so he can land his own. He has always been the monster to anyone he fights. Always. So making 150 does not mean he is losing size advantage to pacquiao. Take that opinion out of your head, it makes this fight even more competative at 150 than 154. Fans wants to see a competition, and not a fight where one keeps on leaning on the other to win it like the heavyweights.

Margarito does not belong at MWs.. Can you even imagine what what martinez or williams would do to him if they ever fight?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

You answered your own question then. They get bigger physically over time. But that does not translate into getting stronger. Same reason all these fighters go thru all those regimens and trains so hard to loose weight and
physically stronger be able to absorb blows to the head and body while dishing out blows to the opponent at the same time. margos style is get close enough so he can land his own. He has always been the monster to anyone he fights. Always. So making 150 does not mean he is losing size advantage to pacquiao. Take that opinion out of your head, it makes this fight even more competative at 150 than 154. Fans wants to see a competition, and not a fight where one keeps on leaning on the other to win it like the heavyweights.

Margarito does not belong at MWs.. Can you even imagine what what martinez or williams would do to him if they ever fight?

Gapo. I know you are not a troll and you have good honest intentions. So I'll debate this with you.

Gapo if this fight NOT being at 154 makes it more competitive in your eyes. Then why is happening at 150 Pounds? Why isnt this happening at 147?

I'll tell you why its because Pac wants an easy record belt in an 8th class. Thats why. And fans are calling him out on it. Nothing more, nothing less.

And Margarito already fought Martinez and Williams. He whooped Martinez's ass like 10 years ago and he lost to Williams like 3 years ago.

[MaD RoBoT]

Nope.


That has shyt to do with anything.

This fight is a Junior Middleweight fight. And Pac wants it as close to 147 as possible because he is not man enough or confident enough in his skills and ability to fight him head at the limit.

Just like he did vs. Cotto. When he fought Oscar at 147 before that fight.

Why not just fight him at 147 Pounds then? I'll help you its because hes trying to make history with as little risk as possible. He pulls shyt like this because of fans like you who have such a hard on for him that you refuse to call him out on his bullshyt.

I mean this guy wanted Marg at 143 in the past.

He wanted Shane at 143.

He wanted Oscar at 143.

What do you think thats for? Nothing?

look at how much hate you had on Pacquiao

and LOL at you saying Margs at 150 will lower his size advantages

Margs is a career welter, so it will not drain him

it won't affect his size (lol) because he still has height, reach & even weight advantage

Handspeed owns ur ass instead

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

look at how much hate you had on Pacquiao

and LOL at you saying Margs at 150 will lower his size advantages

Margs is a career welter, so it will not drain him

it won't affect his size (lol) because he still has height, reach & even weight advantage

Handspeed owns ur ass instead

Marg does not use his height or reach. Have you ever watched Margaito fight before?

Where did I say he would be drained. Show me.

[Phenom]

No,, it does not. if anything , it will make him stronger. Most of his fights had been at 147 pounders. Is it not?

when was the last time Margarito looked good and won at 147? 2 1/2 years ago ever thought maybe he is not effective at WW any more which is way he needed to load his gloves?

[gapo]

Gapo. I know you are not a troll and you have good honest intentions. So I'll debate this with you.

Gapo if this fight NOT being at 154 makes it more competitive in your eyes. Then why is happening at 150 Pounds? Why isnt this happening at 147?

I'll tell you why its because Pac wants an easy record belt in an 8th class. Thats why. And fans are calling him out on it. Nothing more, nothing less.

And Margarito already fought Martinez and Williams. He whooped Martinez's ass like 10 years ago and he lost to Williams like 3 years ago.

Yes , He fought williams and lost. I did not see his fight against martinez. But at this point, i think either fighter would beat him rather easily pre plaster accusations. Lets face it, he had taken a beating himself thruout his career also. and it i think makes him not competative at middleweights.

Whats wrong in winning belts in 8 different classes? Pac could have fought yuri before cotto got to him.

my point is, still,, margo does not belong in 154 pounds. Fighting at 150 could be the best thing that ever happen to him. I'm not counting him, he has a punchers chance. But he will be watch with an eagle eye in that locker room upon getting his handwraps. I'm sure that issue is something we will never hear after the fight. And yes, margarito's camp should also send somebody to watch pacquaio wrapping his hands.

[straightleft]

Are you really that ******? How I wish Pac fights Margarito at Welterweight (147) to stop these smart fans talking nonsense that Pac was draining Margarito at 150.
This is a fact:
Margarito is a career welterweight (147), made most of his fights here and his name!
Smart fans logical thinking:
Welterweight (147) boxer Margarito will be weight drained at 150 by adding 3lbs of weight! Why? Smart fans: well....you know....because its catchweight.
If they fight at welterweight (147) it is fair for Margarito? Smart fans: yes it is! you know....its not a catchweight anymore.

note: After Pac fought Oscar at 147 then move down to 140 and fought Hatton in his best division. These smart fans no where to be found telling us before the fight outcome. "Hatton made Pac weight drained himself by cutting down 7lbs or whatever to fight him at 140!" Jackshot these bias smart fans specially No Ceilings where you can't hear him saying how bictcha Floyd is by asking these smaller men (a Hatton 140 fighter and JMM a 135 fighter) to move up in Floyd division (147). Shameless Floyd at least Pac fought them in their best divisions!

Well said. They should fight at welterweight to shut up these *****s mouth thinking it was Pac vs May fight. *****s should post only in Pac vs May threads. This about Pac vs Marg and they put too much rubbish in their threads.

[gapo]

when was the last time Margarito looked good and won at 147? 2 1/2 years ago ever thought maybe he is not effective at WW any more which is way he needed to load his gloves?

He looked worse above that weight class don't you think?.

[Phenom]

He looked worse above that weight class don't you think?.

I think getting KTFO at 147 is worse then winning in a lackluster fight against a no name Garcia. but true he hasn't looked good at all at JrMW