First time watching Alexander v Kotelnik.....

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  • MOTHER DUCKER
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    #21
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    This year alone? Aydin-Jo Jo Dan and Shumenov-Campillo II are much worse.

    All time? Forget about it. You have Whitaker-Ramirez and Chavez, Santa Cruz-Casamayor, Martinez-Cintron and many others that were worse.
    Oh didn't watch those 2 fights.. i did watch Dywer the gambler on youtube though say that Jo Jo was a fantastic bet

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    • wazaa.
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      #22
      Yeah it was a clear robbery. First time I watched it with listening to Lederman I thought Alexander won a close fight. But after watching it again without listening to Lederman I scored it 116-112 Kotelnik.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Shadows
        Shumenov-Campillo II was worse, and everyone says that Dan-Aydin was an awful decision, though I haven't seen that one yet.
        Jo Jo Dan vs Aydin was on par with Kotelnik vs Alexander.. Although Jo Jo at times made Aydin look like just some guy they pulled out off the bar stool to make the star look good.

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        • The_Demon
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          #24
          Originally posted by Ray*
          Bad decision yes, Robbery no.. Kotelnik wasnt active enough to call this fight a robbery, And Alexander shows he had Zero plan B, I actually was high on Alexander before this fight but the moment he face a defensive wizard he seem to ran out of ideals.
          I agree,it wasnt quite a robbery,just a bad decision

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          • paulf
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            #25
            This was one of the worst robberies ive ever witnessed live. Sad sad sad. And Kotelnik's been swept under the rug by King.

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            • Shattered Jaw
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              #26
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Nah, I don't think that is the worst one either.

              Not for me anyways. Hell I think Alexander-Kotelnik is worse a decision than Froch-Dirrell IMO. That fight was just too ugly to score. A lot of rounds neither fighter did anything.
              Yes. Froch - Dirrell was a hard fight to score. Nasty fight that should be forgotten IMO.

              Originally posted by WAR FERGIE
              What's the worse? my mind has gone blank

              Oh and TS i totally agree i was arguing like anything that Alexander was overhyped prior to the fight.. people were saying bradley was scared.. alexander was the man at 140 etc..

              Alexander had beat an Old Witter who was injured and beaten by Bradley before hand and Kotelnik was robbed by Witter in England imo i was at the fight.

              He also knocked out Urango but most people didn't see Urango was coming into that fight and also i had Alexander maybe 1 or 2 rounds up in that fight..

              Hardly the world beater he was proclaimed to be.. other then those 2 he had Corley coming off 3 losses no one else.
              Yes. I agree. Witter was old although still a good win for Alexander. He should have also moved to 147 years ago.

              Also, even though the Urango fight ended in spectacular fashion, it was becoming very close. I can't remember the round of the KO (was it 7?) but if that was the case I think I had it a draw or maybe a point or so to Alexander. Urango was coming on very strong and winning rounds.

              Alexander is a good fighter but Bradley has impressed me far more and continues to impress.

              Originally posted by Ray*
              Bad decision yes, Robbery no.. Kotelnik wasnt active enough to call this fight a robbery, And Alexander shows he had Zero plan B, I actually was high on Alexander before this fight but the moment he face a defensive wizard he seem to ran out of ideals.
              Kotelnik not active enough? He landed more punches!

              What are you saying? You wanted him to miss more? That is EXACTLY what you are saying.

              You wanted him to throw more shots and miss but then he'd take the rounds on being 'more active'.

              You do realise that if one fighter (Kotelnik) is using the other fighter's head as a heavy bag (Alexander) they win the round, right?

              Originally posted by Medved
              The fix was in, It was 116-112 for the undercard fight aswell from all 3 judges, the don king fix was in. Same with Lederman he has a piece of Alexander and was screaming loud enough for the official judges to hear how to score it. Dude is a joke and this was a robbery. Note to european fighters, dont go to a fighters home town especially a dump like St Luis, suprising he didnt get shot unless he didnt go outside.

              Only fight in Las Vegas if you from europe and fighting for a title and dont go to states where the commision's biggest draw is a Catfish/Watermelon eating contest and judges/commision could be bought off with some fishing rods/reels and some level 3 bullet proof vests and maybe a boat for the commisioner.
              LMFAO. Totally agree about the fix as well. Very blatant.

              Originally posted by paulf
              This was one of the worst robberies ive ever witnessed live. Sad sad sad. And Kotelnik's been swept under the rug by King.
              Agree 100%

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #27
                Worst robbery of 2010. Alexander was lucky if he won 4 rounds.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by gatagata
                  I also watched Kotelnik Alexander for the first time today. I scored it 118 to 110 for Kotelnik. Lederman's score was a ****ing embarrassment.
                  10 rounds to 2, get the **** out of here.


                  Kotelnik obviously won the fight but it was 8 to 4 or 7 to 5.

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                  • Shattered Jaw
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                    #29
                    Is there ANYONE who actually thought Alexander won the fight apart from his mother?

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                    • Greg House
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                      #30
                      He was robbed and that is the reason Tim wants to fight him now. Before that fight he was avoiding him, fighting Abregu on WW while Devon was calling him out.

                      Corley was robbed against Maidana and that is the reason Khan wants to fight him now.

                      Suddenly the fights between the top 4 JWW aren't as atractive as they were

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