Does the Americans overrate Mayweather!!!

[Jarlaxle]

My point exactly Some people are already calling him one of the top 5 p4p fighters ever.

Whats wrong with that? He is not going to go back to junior lightweight. So if you ask who is the best junior lightweight ever why shouldnt Mayweahther get some consideration? People were saying the same about Duran and Mosley when they moved up to welterweight and both of them had their share of defeats afterwards but its hard to name five lightweights in the history of the class that would beat Duran and Mosley.

[Jarlaxle]

i agree with everything you said. who the **** said marciano was great offensive and defensive? he has the worse defense ever along with mayorga. he got hit way to much by nothing fighters. his accuracy, speed, and defense was absolutely horrible. he had power but that is it. because basically all white fighters suck and he was somehwat good he was much better than other white fighters therefore people think hes better than he really is.

Good god I thought I ripped on Marciano. Marciano is at least a top twelve hevyweight. I think he would have given Louis trouble in Louis's prime. I agree he is overratted but not because he lacked skill its because he was at his best under 190 pounds and never fought anyone with the combination of size, skill and power. In today game Marciano could not even fight as a heavyweight. Vassiliy Jirov makes him look small. He would be a cruiserweight but he would be a great cruiserweight and if he had the right matchup he could beat some of todays heavyweight champs. Marciano had it all. He was fast, had a great short right, he could take a punch, and he had heart but a boxer who knew how to use his height like Lewis or a big bruiser like Foreman would have given him hell.

[Mike Tyson Jr.]

oh yeah 49 wins wow what a ****ing great accomplishment fighting bums. and od you think we would be saying **** if we hadnt seen him. ive seen him and im calling it like i see it, and he ****ing sucks as far as skill goes.

I agree. 49 wins against
old men and tomato cans.

[druth]

To stay on topic for a moment, Mayweather is not over-rated, I think he's under-rated. He looked great against Gatti, but Gatti's style was made for Mayweather. If he has the fight with Judah, it'll be a better fight to decide, but as of now, I think he's better then we think.

Now as far as Marciano goes, he's a top 10 heavyweight easily. 49-0 is hard to do, regardless of the time period. Sure some of his fights were against bums, but to do what he did is absolutely amazing.

For someone who thinks Tyson was the all-time best, you need a reality check. Marciano beat EVERYONE in his way, Tyson couldn't get past Buster Douglas (in Tyson's prime) or Kevin McBride. Shut up and sit down.

[Mike Tyson Jr.]

To stay on topic for a moment, Mayweather is not over-rated, I think he's under-rated. He looked great against Gatti, but Gatti's style was made for Mayweather. If he has the fight with Judah, it'll be a better fight to decide, but as of now, I think he's better then we think.

Now as far as Marciano goes, he's a top 10 heavyweight easily. 49-0 is hard to do, regardless of the time period. Sure some of his fights were against bums, but to do what he did is absolutely amazing.

For someone who thinks Tyson was the all-time best, you need a reality check. Marciano beat EVERYONE in his way, Tyson couldn't get past Buster Douglas (in Tyson's prime) or Kevin McBride. Shut up and sit down.

tyson was not focused when douglas
beat him. he was not trained well
because he didnt have rooney in
his corner.

[Mike Tyson Jr.]

marciano wouldnt last
against a modern heavyweight.

[SliqueJab]

I don't think so, I know fighters today are more physically strong from the neck down but they not more tougher mentally.

[theironone]

slique your mad for the **** and truly love the brits but i have to admit i agree with you on that post, good boy

[SliqueJab]

Yeah then why won't you tell your friend the VAJINAL MOUTH , Dirt to the E Gomez that you see her mouth better with you glasses.

[theironone]

my avatar expression says it all i'm truly shocked!!!!!

Why so defensive it says in your title your mad for the **** and i did actually agree with you about the old timers mentality post, prob too much jizz in your eye - did you read my post correctly