Most people remember Eric Morales as a guy who Barrera gave hell, but imagine...

[Gina Ros]

erik wasnt at his best in the first manny fight. but he had enough to beat a manny who had more cons than pros. barerra wasnt prime either them guys been pros since 15 and already were on way to be legends. if that was their prime what did they do after manny that was big prior to manny? nothing. not taken anything away from manny every big fighter made a name off other names that wasnt at their best. but they were still good enough. plus manny has the style to beat barera most of the time but i believe erik has the style similar to marquez but longer and stronger to beat manny. but ring age and weight was his downfall

how old was manny when he started boxing?

[MaD RoBoT]

Apply the same brush, Erik was in his prime at 122, 126, and a few fights at 130, he beats every version of Pacquiao in those divisions.

i agree

but those were near-prime versions of Pac

in my opinion, a prime Pac would give a prime Erik a run for his money

and vice versa

[Shabba Rank$]

A prime El Terrible gives Pacquiao a good war but wins via UD or late TKO.

[Frank Ducketts]

hmmm... I dunno. Erik in his prime against a prime Manny at 130 could maybe pull it off -And that's a BIG MAYBE.

He can't slug it out with Manny though or he loses. His technical boxing skills were always superior to a lot of other fighters and I think that's the only way he wins. Could still go either way though... Just my opinion.

One thing I wont deny is that Erik was a whole different animal in his prime. One of the fighters I truly miss watching.

Why do people start these threads. Just makes me get all emo about boxing and how much I miss the stuff I grew up on. /wrists

...I hear ya.

[Frank Ducketts]

Ok, so when was his prime exactly?

When in his career did he have a better streak against elite competition than he did right before Pacquiao crushed him? Hamed and Morales alone had a combined record of 76-0 lol. And let me guess, Barrera at 29 was old, shot, and past his prime right? But please, bull**** some more.

You already lost. You have a good night though.

MAB started young, and his apex was the 2nd Morales fight. The man fought Tapia and Kelley, and he knew his time at the elite level was over.

[boxingsmash69]

if Morales was prime, and Pac had to face a prime MAB and EM.

I know this is an old subject, but I came across this video, and I remember how smart a fighter EM used to be.

This was the last time we saw a great EM who was past his prime but still good. EM struggled with MAB, but styles make fights. EM imo would've had Pac's # had he been prime:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEd7bmOS8Ro

Morales was a certified beast, no lie.

But who says that the 126-130lbs was prime Pac? Prime Pac is either NOW or at 140lbs.

Morales' prime was at 122lbs.

Shall we put 140lbs Pac and 122lbs Morales in the same ring?

[King Ju-Ju]

pacquiao hadnt reached his potential by that time and still beat them.

[King Ju-Ju]

if u go prime vs prime, pacquiao still wins.

[joelab75]

Apply the same brush, Erik was in his prime at 122, 126, and a few fights at 130, he beats every version of Pacquiao in those divisions.

Erik would win in 122, 126 but not in 130 lbs though. Manny has reached his peak in 2008 and reach his best division just last yr. if you apply prime for prime Erik wouldnt have anything to offer in the table to beat Manny. their first fight was a close fight. Manny was a one dimensional fighter, hadn't improved anything yet, still learning from Roach but the fight was close but Erik definitely won the fight. pound for pound Erik never reached Manny's status. so Manny will destroy Erik prime for prime.

[Frank Ducketts]

Morales was a certified beast, no lie.

But who says that the 126-130lbs was prime Pac? Prime Pac is either NOW or at 140lbs.

Morales' prime was at 122lbs.

Shall we put 140lbs Pac and 122lbs Morales in the same ring?

Pac was prime the minute he unified/dominated 122 lbs... PAc is fighting lesser skilled men at higher weights now...