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  • #41
    Originally posted by V-3 View Post


    Funny, funny post.
    I was tryin' to be controversial.....but don't get it twisted my dude, I REALLY think Shane will put Berto to sleep and have a wicked ass war with Manny that could go either way!!

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    • #42
      Originally posted by RimmyDelicious View Post
      Pac is, Mosley isn't.
      Mosley gets more respect than Floyd....Floyd is a undefeated fighter with a history of avoiding fighters!!....thats what his legacy is built off.....get with the program fam!!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
        Mosley gets more respect than Floyd....Floyd is a undefeated fighter with a history of avoiding fighters!!....thats what his legacy is built off.....get with the program fam!!
        Floyd has never ducked anyone.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
          Wow..........

          My math skills might not be up to par. But, I think 6 is greater than 5.

          Pac didn't fight for a catch-weight to win titles in his first 6 weight-classes. Floyd didn't fight to win a title at a catch-weight for his for his first 5 weight-classes.

          Again maybe wrong but 6 is more so than 5 right?

          So I guess if Floyd fights for a 7 World title at a catch-weight then it should count against him that he is going for a SMW strap.

          Anyways of course to you Floyd would rank higher. But, if both retire right now Pac would be higher by un-biased fans.
          I think if they both retired for good right now, that to me,
          them 2 catchweight fights won't have me put Pac higher than
          Floyd. Your subtracting them 2 fights and comparing his other
          6 fights to 5 legit weight title fights. Manny didn't move up and
          fully dominate at the higher weights AND he still hasn't become
          Lineal champ at WW like Floyd, while Floyd held titles at 130, 135
          140, 147 same as Manny EXCEPT! Manny didn't win his title
          at 147 but 145 and is now fighting for a title at a 152 catchweight
          while Floyd moved up and won his at 154. Floyd even fought
          more at 135/140 than Pac did. Also, isn't Floyd rated as one of
          the top 130 fighters in the sport of boxing? You say that Pac would
          be rated higher by most un-bias boxing fans? I read more post hating
          Floyd then actually talking about his boxing career on here and other
          sites. Fans don't make it a legit argument considering you have other
          boxing websites and sports media who still rate him as the number one
          P4P fighter. Hell, Pac didn't even beat Floyd for the slot.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
            Mosley gets more respect than Floyd....Floyd is a undefeated fighter with a history of avoiding fighters!!....thats what his legacy is built off.....get with the program fam!!
            Mosley for sure has fought some tough fights and basically all
            comers whenever the opportunity presented itself (with exception
            to Paul Williams) But no one at 147 is trying to fight Paul. I think
            Balco will always hang over Mosley's head but aside from that he
            is an ATG. Not sure where his place will be though.

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            • #46
              Im sorry to say but Mosley vs Berto is a 50/50 Shane speed and stamina has gone to **** in his last 2 fights. Manny simply tatoos his face to a TKO.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                I think if they both retired for good right now, that to me,
                them 2 catchweight fights won't have me put Pac higher than
                Floyd. Your subtracting them 2 fights and comparing his other
                6 fights to 5 legit weight title fights. Manny didn't move up and
                fully dominate at the higher weights AND he still hasn't become
                Lineal champ at WW like Floyd, while Floyd held titles at 130, 135
                140, 147 same as Manny EXCEPT! Manny didn't win his title
                at 147 but 145 and is now fighting for a title at a 152 catchweight
                while Floyd moved up and won his at 154. Floyd even fought
                more at 135/140 than Pac did. Also, isn't Floyd rated as one of
                the top 130 fighters in the sport of boxing? You say that Pac would
                be rated higher by most un-bias boxing fans? I read more post hating
                Floyd then actually talking about his boxing career on here and other
                sites. Fans don't make it a legit argument considering you have other
                boxing websites and sports media who still rate him as the number one
                P4P fighter. Hell, Pac didn't even beat Floyd for the slot.
                Pac has 6 legit titles in legit weight-class + 1 catch-weight title

                Floyd has 5 legit titles in legit weight-classes.

                6>5 how hard that is to understand? 6 + -.5(catch-weight)= 5.5>5.

                Pac hasn't won a lineal title in his 7 weight-class? Is that what you're basing it off? Has Floyd won a lineal title in his 7th weight-class? Tell me who has won a lineal title in their 7th weight-class while skipping 2 other weight-classes.

                Pac has won lineal titles in 4 divisions without a catch-weight. Has Floyd done that? Tell who else besides Pac has done that?

                Again so If Pac retires with titles in 8 weight-classes 2 fo them catch-weights. And, IF lets say Floyd win a title all the way up to Heavyweight. Which would give him 9 titles however 3 of them would be at a catch-weight. Then Pac would be greater than Floyd using your logic.

                I guess...........

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                • #48
                  looks like these greedy promoters are cooking up something again before they serve us pac-floyd. i read one article saying golden boy is planning to put khan (if he beats maidana) against floyd before floyd fights pac. and now this...mosley-berto fight as an eliminator for a pac fight.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    Pac has 6 legit titles in legit weight-class + 1 catch-weight title

                    Floyd has 5 legit titles in legit weight-classes.

                    6>5 how hard that is to understand? 6 + -.5(catch-weight)= 5.5>5.

                    Pac hasn't won a lineal title in his 7 weight-class? Is that what you're basing it off? Has Floyd won a lineal title in his 7th weight-class? Tell me who has won a lineal title in their 7th weight-class while skipping 2 other weight-classes.

                    Pac has won lineal titles in 4 divisions without a catch-weight. Has Floyd done that? Tell who else besides Pac has done that?

                    Again so If Pac retires with titles in 8 weight-classes 2 fo them catch-weights. And, IF lets say Floyd win a title all the way up to Heavyweight. Which would give him 9 titles however 3 of them would be at a catch-weight. Then Pac would be greater than Floyd using your logic.

                    I guess...........
                    I guess we will have to just agree to disagree. In my opinion
                    Floyd's career is more impressive to me than Pacquiao's and
                    that is my un-bias point of view.

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                    • #50
                      Berto has really never impressed me with " skills " just aggression and speed . SSM should retire , but I'd like to see Bert/SSM on HBO .
                      Some air head said "Floyd has never ducked anyone".We all know that is not true of him or just about any boxer for that matter. He sure as "**** " looks like he is scared to fight Manny . I just wish SSM had not tired , tightened up or what ever the poor excuse was for not going ahead and knocking his lights out . I just hope SSM quits before they have to take his liscence away or carry him out feet first .

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