Whoever Believes Pacquiao is on Steroids is a pawn, follower, etc.

[jrosales13]

How is that an example of your point. Most athletes are on steroids, boxing has a crappy drug testing system and I did the math. Its just some naive bull**** to say you dont think hes on steroids, infact you probably know he most likely is.

What boxer do you believe is not on any PED?

[rochemback]

Does this look like roid rage to you?





Just saying...

[RubenSonny]

What boxer do you believe is not on any PED?

Floyd "Money" Mayweather















Nah I'm playing, I assume that most top level boxers have are using or have used peds at some point.

[Ray*]

Most boxer arent all natural, Most of them have taken something at some stage of their careers, Moreover i dont see the difference between anyone who think Pac isnt on anything and the ones who think he's on something.

[jrosales13]

Floyd "Money" Mayweather















Nah I'm playing, I assume that most top level boxers have are using or have used peds at some point.

Cool,

I have a ****** question. Just want to see how you think.

If most are using would that equal the level playing field?

[brick wall]

good thing for pac this peds controversy for him is confined to boxing forums unlike what's happening to lance armstrong where it's hugging headlines in many sports media outlets. maybe because pac's accusers have no credibility and they never worked with him anyway. lance accuser was a former teammate so he is perceived to have some inside knowledge. pac's accuser on the other hand are the ones acting like they're into drugs getting into some nasty controversies outside the ring.

[RubenSonny]

Cool,

I have a ****** question. Just want to see how you think.

If most are using would that equal the level playing field?

Thats where **** gets complicated. I would have to say it wouldnt be a level playing field, there maybe are some fighters that dont juice and I have no way of knowing the absolute. I dont know is the best thing is for them to legalize roids or whatever, its obivious im not a ped expert. How about you?

[madsweeney]

good thing for pac this peds controversy for him is confined to boxing forums unlike what's happening to lance armstrong where it's hugging headlines in many sports media outlets. maybe because pac's accusers have no credibility and they never worked with him anyway. lance accuser was a former teammate so he is perceived to have some inside knowledge. pac's accuser on the other hand are the ones acting like they're into drugs getting into some nasty controversies outside the ring.

Problem with ped's and testing...Lance is probably the most tested person in the world, and people still think he dopes. Once the doubt is cast (thank you Mayweathers) there will always be people who believe someone is guilty no matter what they do to prove innocence.

[jrosales13]

Thats where **** gets complicated. I would have to say it wouldnt be a level playing field, there maybe are some fighters that dont juice and I have no way of knowing the absolute. I dont know is the best thing is for them to legalize roids or whatever, its obivious im not a ped expert. How about you?

I am not an expert either. And, I don't pretend to be one. So I can't really say.

I really don't like it though. I rather just have OST as a mandatory for every single sanctioning fight. I don't know how likely thats going to happen. Maybe it would be easier or cheaper to legalize it then it is to make it a mandatory test.

I really don't know.

It just pisses me off that boxing as a sport had been slow with this issue. All the major sports in basketball, football, baseball(By force from congress), the Olympics are ahead of boxing. It is crazy, maybe congress should get involved now. And, even though IMO the accusation was baseless, I really never saw any proof, paperwork, nothing for him to acccuse Pac. and maybe or maybe not it was his way to avoid Pac. Either way I give him props for bringing up this issue to the fore front.

The only thing that I don't like is that Pac gets single out. And, I don't see nothing wrong with Pac getting criticize because he is a big name in boxing and along with Floyd is the face of boxing. However, what gets me is that there other P4P level fighters who hang/work with shady characters and the same fans who shit on Pac are willing to give others the benefit of the doubt. And, that to me is a double standard.

[RubenSonny]

I am not an expert either. And, I don't pretend to be one. So I can't really say.

I really don't like it though. I rather just have OST as a mandatory for every single sanctioning fight. I don't know how likely thats going to happen. Maybe it would be easier or cheaper to legalize it then it is to make it a mandatory test.

I really don't know.

It just pisses me off that boxing as a sport had been slow with this issue. All the major sports in basketball, football, baseball(By force from congress), the Olympics are ahead of boxing. It is crazy, maybe congress should get involved now. And, even though IMO the accusation was baseless, I really never saw any proof, paperwork, nothing for him to acccuse Pac. and maybe or maybe not it was his way to avoid Pac. Either way I give him props for bringing up this issue to the fore front.

The only thing that I don't like is that Pac gets single out. And, I don't see nothing wrong with Pac getting criticize because he is a big name in boxing and along with Floyd is the face of boxing. However, what gets me is that there other P4P level fighters who hang/work with shady characters and the same fans who shit on Pac are willing to give others the benefit of the doubt. And, that to me is a double standard.

Agree with all of that.