Why did Whitaker vs. Trinidad not happen in 93 or 94???

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  • Shaolin Bushido
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    #61
    Originally posted by Parodius
    I'm not a Tito basher. I actually like the guy. Whitaker was washed up because he started doing ******* after the lose to De lA Hoya, which was a gift decision. Whitaker before his ******* problem was one of the greatest fighters I ever seen. I know the Whitaker that fought Chavez, would've beat Tito or anyone else easily. Whitaker was screwed too many times in his career by the judges, some of the worst decision I've ever seen. Chavez, Rameriz & De La Hoya. He won those fight easily & if anyone looked at the ****ing judges scorecard in these fights, it will make you sick. Even Tito fans should admit, that was not the Whitaker we knew. The drug free Whitaker would've beaten Tito easily, guys like Mr. Boring & Bitchkins out boxed Tito easily & these 2 guys are not half the boxer that Whitaker was in his prime. Whitaker & PBF are 2 of the greatest boxers that I've ever seen. You don't see guys like Whitaker & PBF everyday. Marvelous Marvin Hagler is my all time favorite boxer, he was my idol when I was a kid, but I'm not gonna say that Hagler was the greatest boxer that I ever seen. The biggest problem with many fans is that they think there favorite fighter is the best they have ever seen.
    Pretty good ... why did I see someone volunteering you as the worst poster or some ****? Looks pretty good to me.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Parodius
      I'm not a Tito basher. I actually like the guy. Whitaker was washed up because he started doing ******* after the lose to De lA Hoya, which was a gift decision. Whitaker before his ******* problem was one of the greatest fighters I ever seen. I know the Whitaker that fought Chavez, would've beat Tito or anyone else easily. Whitaker was screwed too many times in his career by the judges, some of the worst decision I've ever seen. Chavez, Rameriz & De La Hoya. He won those fight easily & if anyone looked at the ****ing judges scorecard in these fights, it will make you sick. Even Tito fans should admit, that was not the Whitaker we knew. The drug free Whitaker would've beaten Tito easily, guys like Mr. Boring & Bitchkins out boxed Tito easily & these 2 guys are not half the boxer that Whitaker was in his prime. Whitaker & PBF are 2 of the greatest boxers that I've ever seen. You don't see guys like Whitaker & PBF everyday. Marvelous Marvin Hagler is my all time favorite boxer, he was my idol when I was a kid, but I'm not gonna say that Hagler was the greatest boxer that I ever seen. The biggest problem with many fans is that they think there favorite fighter is the best they have ever seen.
      Chavez was a bum decision, Jose Luis Ramirez was a bum decision but dont put those two fights in the same category as the Delahoya fight, there is a huge myth going around that Pernell was screwed robbed against OScar.

      Could he have been given the decision, maybe but to say that was a bad decision is just not telling it like it is, if Sweat Pea won the Ramirez fight and the Chavez fight then he got smoked by Oscar...dont put the Oscar fight in the same breath with those two, thats just not right.

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        #63
        Originally posted by rudy
        Yeah right that is why Whittaker lost a clear decision and down twice. Oh let me guess he was not in his prime and was making a comeback after a long layoff and was a coke addict.

        Something that is very similar is Wright beating Trindad when he was not in his prime. Whitaker would have lost 10 out 10 with Trindad but I doubt that Wright would have beaten Trindad before the Hopkins who gave the blue print how to defeat Trindad.

        U guys cannot knock Trindad because of all the thrills he has given i will mention, Campas, Vargas, Reid just a few of his fights that were exciting. Now I ask anyone name one fight that Wright has been that was exciting NONE.
        is tito on coke? I did not know that

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          #64
          although whitaker was good...i think trinidad would beat him at anytime..whitaker dosent throw enough punches..i think he thought when he ducks a shot that scores him points or something like he did against de la hoya

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            #65
            Originally posted by dino
            although whitaker was good...i think trinidad would beat him at anytime..whitaker dosent throw enough punches..i think he thought when he ducks a shot that scores him points or something like he did against de la hoya

            I think your wrong about Tito beating Sweat Pea prime for prime, but I think your right when you say Sweat Pea thinks he is scoring when he is not getting hit against Oscar-the guy fought as defensive a fight as you can fight, he wasntr boxing he wasnt fighting all Sweat Pea cared about was not getting hit, too me it was an easy fight to score.

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              #66
              Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
              I wish Trinidad could of fought Chavez, so he could KO him in the 1st round. Maybe Chavez even quit half way through the first.
              how the hell can you hate chavez. yeah i would have wanted tito to beat him also but he definitely wouldnt have beat him easy if he would have even beat him. theyre both all time greats. but i think pernell would have beat tito in his prime i mean when he did do stuff in their fight at that age he did good, he ws accurate and he actually stunned tito a few times with those straight lefts.

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                #67
                Originally posted by zabkillsspinks
                how the hell can you hate chavez. yeah i would have wanted tito to beat him also but he definitely wouldnt have beat him easy if he would have even beat him. theyre both all time greats. but i think pernell would have beat tito in his prime i mean when he did do stuff in their fight at that age he did good, he ws accurate and he actually stunned tito a few times with those straight lefts.
                Both DLH and Trinidad almost fought the same people, with almost equal results.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by scap
                  Chavez was a bum decision, Jose Luis Ramirez was a bum decision but dont put those two fights in the same category as the Delahoya fight, there is a huge myth going around that Pernell was screwed robbed against OScar.

                  Could he have been given the decision, maybe but to say that was a bad decision is just not telling it like it is, if Sweat Pea won the Ramirez fight and the Chavez fight then he got smoked by Oscar...dont put the Oscar fight in the same breath with those two, thats just not right.
                  HE GOT SMOKED BY OSCAR, YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. I WILL AGREE IT WASN'T LIKE THE CHAVEZ OR RAMIREZ FIGHTS, BUT HE STILL GOT ROBBED AGAINST OSCAR.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Parodius
                    HE GOT SMOKED BY OSCAR, YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. I WILL AGREE IT WASN'T LIKE THE CHAVEZ OR RAMIREZ FIGHTS, BUT HE STILL GOT ROBBED AGAINST OSCAR.

                    You missed th point of what I was trying to say, the two fights vs. Ramirez and Chavez he was completely jobbed and if he got jobbed in those fights then in co parison to the Oscar fight he was smoked.

                    Quit using the term robbed when you simply disagree with a decision, the term robbed is for fights like Whitaker and Chavez or Augsutus and Burton...

                    In simpler terms when a fighter gets ****ed he is robbed when a fighter loses a very close decision he did not get ****ed or robbed that is just the nature of the game when you leave it up to the judges.

                    Quit saying robbed, that could not be farther from the truth...tell me if you truly believe Sweat Pea was robbed explain it too me please?

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                    • Parodius
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by scap
                      You missed th point of what I was trying to say, the two fights vs. Ramirez and Chavez he was completely jobbed and if he got jobbed in those fights then in co parison to the Oscar fight he was smoked.

                      Quit using the term robbed when you simply disagree with a decision, the term robbed is for fights like Whitaker and Chavez or Augsutus and Burton...

                      In simpler terms when a fighter gets ****ed he is robbed when a fighter loses a very close decision he did not get ****ed or robbed that is just the nature of the game when you leave it up to the judges.

                      Quit saying robbed, that could not be farther from the truth...tell me if you truly believe Sweat Pea was robbed explain it too me please?
                      8 rounds to 4, nuff said!

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