Comments Thread For: Amir Khan, Marcos Maidana Trade Words at London Presser

[PainKiller]

This article was put out by GBP. If it's inaccurate don't blame BS, they're just printing the bull**** that Golden Boy is selling. I had to laugh outloud when I read "...with the exception of a brief bump in the road..." (reffering to Kahns loss to Prescott). But then again, GBP played equally as fair in down playing their fighters short comings. Notice they reffered to Maidanas last 3 fights as impressive, which the word "impressive" and anything to do with the Corley fight, don't belong in the same sentence.
I really, really, really hope Maidana comes in top shape to this fight. Everyone says he was just overlooking Corley in that fight, and is why he looked so bad. I will never understand overlooking any fighter, why would you not be in tip top condition for every fight? Oh well, I hope that really was the case. He's going to have to be in the best condition to chase Kahn around the ring all night.

It's not easy to run 8 miles a day and train and train.

Heck there are plenty of fun things that I use to not sleep over that right now, it's like ah **** it, I aint bothered.

Miadana does well with one style, and that's anyone who chooses to engage all the time as opposed to box. Miadana does not have the speed and footwork.

I know Khan will win, but I hope he does not make it too boring.

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LONDON- With fans from the United States to England to Argentina clamoring for it for well over a year, super lightweight supremacy will finally be decided on Saturday, December 11, when British superstar Amir "King" Khan returns to the United States for his second consecutive bout to defend his World Boxing Association (WBA) 140-pound World Championship against ferocious Argentinean knockout artist and WBA Super Lightweight Interim World Champion Marcos Maidana at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada. The highly anticipated bout will be televised live in the United States on HBO's World Championship Boxing.

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Lolz, the first think out Khans mouth is "Maidanas been doing lot of talking". We all know who's been doing the talking, Mr Tweeter himself .

[Spray_resistant]

Actually I think boxing is almost unique among major sports in that fans expect fighters to be at their best in every fight. Doesn't happen in other sports, and I think it's unrealistic to expect it to happen in boxing.

In the football (soccer to you) World Cup, Spain lost to Switzerland (a team of nobodies) in their opening match - but Spain still went on to win the tournament convincingly, whereas Switzerland didn't get past the group stages. Spain is now ranked the #1 team in the world, while Switzerland, despite that win over Spain, is only ranked #17.

Tiger Woods doesn't win every golf tournament, but he's still regarded as one of the top 3 golfers of all time. Federer and Nadal often lose to inferior tennis players, but no one bats an eyelid when that happens.

But boxers are expected to be at their best in every fight, and IMO it's unrealistic.

It for generally requires that you are at the highest level of boxing everytime out, and if they don't come into fights in the best shape possible every time well then they deserve the criticism if they look bad because they are not in the best shape.

If fighters look bad because they slacked in some area they only have themselves to blame.

[PainKiller]

Lolz, the first think out Khans mouth is "Maidanas been doing lot of talking". We all know who's been doing the talking, Mr Tweeter himself .

You talk in every thread about him son.

LOL fool

[Lorily]

But boxers are expected to be at their best in every fight, and IMO it's unrealistic.

Expected, sure why not? Unrealistic? How so?
Personally, I don't think comparing boxing to those other sports is realistic. A team sport, or a sport where you aren't getting hit in the face and body isn't comparable IMO.
But besides that, these guys are being paid thousands on the low end, hundreds of thousands and upward in to the millions in some cases, and we shouldn't expect them to come in their best shape every time? I don't get your reasoning on that.
Maidana was huffing and puffing like a 2 pack a day smoker after the 1st round. If not for the sake of looking good, but for themselves, why would they want to come in unprepared in any fight? In the first place, it's not like Corley has a history of being an easy opponent. He may not have the best record, but dude comes to fight everytime.
But, I do however give Maidana credit for persistance. There were times it looked almost painful for him to take another step or like he was going to fall over from exhaustion, yet he would take a deep breath and move forward. I think he got by in that fight by grit alone.
TBH, the only time I could really excuse a fighter for being out of shape is those fighters who are still having to work and train. But a fighter who has a 6-8 week training camp without having to worry about going to a job, not coming out in great physical condition? How do you excuse that? I certainly don't consider it being 'unrealistic' to expect that they give a 100% in training camp and come out conditioned as such.

[PainKiller]

Expected, sure why not? Unrealistic? How so?
Personally, I don't think comparing boxing to those other sports is realistic. A team sport, or a sport where you aren't getting hit in the face and body isn't comparable IMO.
But besides that, these guys are being paid thousands on the low end, hundreds of thousands and upward in to the millions in some cases, and we shouldn't expect them to come in their best shape every time? I don't get your reasoning on that.
Maidana was huffing and puffing like a 2 pack a day smoker after the 1st round. If not for the sake of looking good, but for themselves, why would they want to come in unprepared in any fight? In the first place, it's not like Corley has a history of being an easy opponent. He may not have the best record, but dude comes to fight everytime.
But, I do however give Maidana credit for persistance. There were times it looked almost painful for him to take another step or like he was going to fall over from exhaustion, yet he would take a deep breath and move forward. I think he got by in that fight by grit alone.
TBH, the only time I could really excuse a fighter for being out of shape is those fighters who are still having to work and train. But a fighter who has a 6-8 week training camp without having to worry about going to a job, not coming out in great physical condition? How do you excuse that? I certainly don't consider it being 'unrealistic' to expect that they give a 100% in training camp and come out conditioned as such.

Are you an A grade student every time then? Do you put effort into work/studies everytime?

Have you ever boxed professionally or done training consistently?

Training at that top intensity requires a lot of motivation. Waking up early for a run is not easy, and then when your body is in so much pain, and you gotta keep going, it is so damn easy to give up and say tomorrow.

Corley presents a tough style for Maidana, but also boxing is a lot of mental. If Maidana was busy with **** like his ex manager cheating him, Khan chatting **** or even normal every day problems like your girl or whatever, it can affect you.

You act like boxers are ****ing robots.

People have problems in life, everyone does, but not everyone shows it.

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madaina madaina lol

[Lorily]

Are you an A grade student every time then? Do you put effort into work/studies everytime?

Have you ever boxed professionally or done training consistently?

Training at that top intensity requires a lot of motivation. Waking up early for a run is not easy, and then when your body is in so much pain, and you gotta keep going, it is so damn easy to give up and say tomorrow.

Corley presents a tough style for Maidana, but also boxing is a lot of mental. If Maidana was busy with **** like his ex manager cheating him, Khan chatting **** or even normal every day problems like your girl or whatever, it can affect you.

You act like boxers are ****ing robots.

People have problems in life, everyone does, but not everyone shows it.

How am I acting like boxers are robots? You are blowing this out of proportion, the conversation is based on the fact that someone said it was 'unrealistic' to expect a boxer to be the best condition for every fight. They're PROFESSIONALS, and they should train as such. If they don't or can't put in the work every time then they won't stay relevant in the pros for very long.
Yes, if I was a grade A student I would put my effort in to my work/studies every time. You don't become a grade A student by not doing that. You certainly wouldn't stay a grade A student if you didn't. Again, this is a bit over stated for the point of the original context.
Is there an Actor/Actress that you like watching? How about if they performed like **** in some movies because they didn't want to have to read their lines everyday? Would you want to keep paying to see that actor if they only did well in 3/4 of their movies? Wouldn't you then consider them a B or C type actor? See, this is over dramatic for the context of the original message.
I was never insinuating that they should all be perfect. I know they all have lives, and there are lots of distractions in them. But, they don't call it the Pros for nothing.

[PainKiller]

How am I acting like boxers are robots? You are blowing this out of proportion, the conversation is based on the fact that someone said it was 'unrealistic' to expect a boxer to be the best condition for every fight. They're PROFESSIONALS, and they should train as such. If they don't or can't put in the work every time then they won't stay relevant in the pros for very long.
Yes, if I was a grade A student I would put my effort in to my work/studies every time. You don't become a grade A student by not doing that. You certainly wouldn't stay a grade A student if you didn't. Again, this is a bit over stated for the point of the original context.
Is there an Actor/Actress that you like watching? How about if they performed like **** in some movies because they didn't want to have to read their lines everyday? Would you want to keep paying to see that actor if they only did well in 3/4 of their movies? Wouldn't you then consider them a B or C type actor? See, this is over dramatic for the context of the original message.
I was never insinuating that they should all be perfect. I know they all have lives, and there are lots of distractions in them. But, they don't call it the Pros for nothing.

Great response buddy.

Yes it is expected for them to be at their best peak condition all the time, but then as fans, we have grown up and seen that there are always times where a fighter is not at his peak.

Often a fighter gets overlooked too.

Lewis VS Rahman is a big one for me. He had the money, got the fame and he went on that film set.

****!

Maidana has not had this much attention on him and perhaps dealing with trying to get his WBA shot and the fact that his ex manager was cheating him was playing on his mind.

When serious stuff play on my mind, I just do not want to do anything.

Yes they should be in top shape, but pretty much all boxers have a bad day.

[Lorily]

Great response buddy.

Yes it is expected for them to be at their best peak condition all the time, but then as fans, we have grown up and seen that there are always times where a fighter is not at his peak.

Often a fighter gets overlooked too.

Lewis VS Rahman is a big one for me. He had the money, got the fame and he went on that film set.

****!

Maidana has not had this much attention on him and perhaps dealing with trying to get his WBA shot and the fact that his ex manager was cheating him was playing on his mind.

When serious stuff play on my mind, I just do not want to do anything.

Yes they should be in top shape, but pretty much all boxers have a bad day.

Thanks Pension.

I think we're on the same page, I think the only reason it bothered me so much (about Maidona appearing out of shape) is that I certainly don't want him to look anything like that in the Kahn fight. Surely there will be a lot more pressure on him in this fight than there ever was in the Corley fight, but who knows. I was actually wondering if something was wrong with him rather then him being out of shape to be honest, because he almost seemed asthmatic. And, he's gonna have to do a ton of roadwork to build up his stamina cause he's gonna be chasing Kahn around all night long.