Comments Thread For: Arum: Mosley Not Likely To Land Pacquiao Showdown

[jrosales13]

dude pac ducked mosley on so many occasions its unreal, maybe im wrong on my dates but a duck is a duck., im no mayweather fan but at least he fought mosley, something pacman wouldnt even consider despite the dude being almost 40, pac is all about the easy money, otherwise we wouldnt see him fighting margs, no one can say pac vs angulo or pac vs martinez wouldnt be exciting and very dangerous fights for pac as well as legitimate.hes tryigg to exit boxing without a loss, its plain as day.

Fighting Mosley right now would be easy money though. It seems like you calling for Pac to fight Shane next.

I get what you saying about the fight not happening in 09. But, you're acting as if you want or that Pac should fight Shane next. However, if Pac beat Shane you would be one who said well that was easy money and Pac is cherry picking.

But, I agree a fight with Angulo and Martinez would be just as exciting and more dangerous and much more legitimate than a fight with Margarito or a fight with Shane for that matter.

[boxingfan76]

Wait... Who was coming off a lost between Cotto and Clottey?

And, if I am not mistaken Hatton was coming off 2 wins and Marg won his comeback fight in May. Correct me if I am wrong.

hatton was brutally destroyed by mayweather,then almost got ko-ed by lazcano, needless to say it was a safe fight for manny. margs looks like crap bro and is coming off an almost career ending defeat to mosley and looked slower than molasses against a club fighter, dont get me wrong I hope margs wins for various reasons, but manny isnt living up to his pnd for pnd status he doesnt face the best. this fight is about manny winning an 8th wt class only problem is margs isnt champ, he isnt even in the top 10 at 154 its a ridiculous fight, manny is great, why not fight angulo or martinez ?,fake belt fake weight. manny never fights top flight guys since jmm, if he fights mayweather it will be the only exception. him and his team dont want a risky fight that is as clear as day.hes fun to watch but, when when will he ever give us a fight with substance?, look at rafa vs lopez look at pwill vs martinez how come they put their balls on the line and manny gets paid ten times more for doing no such thing??

[KnockoutKings]

When has Pac ever said he didn't want a Mosley fight? I've read that FREDDIE said no, but not Manny. Plus, they even said they'd fight Shane if he beat Floyd but obviously that didn't happen.

but manny isnt living up to his pnd for pnd status he doesnt face the best.

Well, its better than not fighting at all. He's staying active. Until FLoyd announces his next fight, Pac is sitting at #1.

[jrosales13]

hatton was brutally destroyed by mayweather,then almost got ko-ed by lazcano, needless to say it was a safe fight for manny. margs looks like crap bro and is coming off an almost career ending defeat to mosley and looked slower than molasses against a club fighter, dont get me wrong I hope margs wins for various reasons, but manny isnt living up to his pnd for pnd status he doesnt face the best. this fight is about manny winning an 8th wt class only problem is margs isnt champ, he isnt even in the top 10 at 154 its a ridiculous fight, manny is great, why not fight angulo or martinez ?,fake belt fake weight. manny never fights top flight guys since jmm, if he fights mayweather it will be the only exception. him and his team dont want a risky fight that is as clear as day.hes fun to watch but, when when will he ever give us a fight with substance?, look at rafa vs lopez look at pwill vs martinez how come they put their balls on the line and manny gets paid ten times more for doing no such thing??

The was not what I was questioning though. I asked a question about that statement you made. Which you clearly was wrong with that statement.

Yes the 8th title is crap. Neither fighter deserves it. No doubt it.

But, my question had nothing to do with that.

You said he fights fighters coming off a lost and included Cotto and Clotty. My question was which one of those fighters was coming off a lost?

Margarito was not coming off a lost yes he look bad against a club fighter but you also have to take into account that he was never a sharp fighter. And, he would be even less sharp coming off a 14 month layoff. So yes he was rusty. Plus he is not the same Marg he has slip some. He also is adding new dimensions and pick up on a new style with his new trainer. All that plays into account in his last fight. However, he is coming off a win. But, he still doesn't deserve it and is not a top 154 pounder. Nobody..... Well I am for sure am not saying he is.

Yea Hatton almost got KO'd but Hatton also almost got KO'd in the Collazo fight. What is your point? Hatton had been dropped before by a tomato can. Hatton had never the best punch resistance. But, now my question is why don't you mention the fight prior to the Pac fight that he beat a top 10 JWW? Yea Malignaggi didn't have any power. But, even without any power he made it to the top 10 rankings. And, Hatton beat him decisevely.

You said Pac hasn't fought top fighters since he beat JMM at 130. However, at the time he fought Hatton which was in May of 2009. Hatton was arguably the best JWW at 140 at worst he was #2. Yea it might been a weak division . But, he was a top fighter in that weight-class regardless. When Pac fought Cotto in November of 2009. At that time Cotto was arguable the #2 WW behind Shane at worst #3 behind Floyd and Shane. 2 very elite P4P players. So Cotto was a top fighter at WW at that time.

You say that Pac is not living up to the P4P status. And, you say you really not a Floyd fan. Which is cool I believe you. But, I will use Floyd as an example. The same way you just shot down Pac competition. I can easily shoot down Floyd level of competition and who he chose to fight ever since the Castillo rematch. The you said Pac is not living up to the P4P status I could also easily say that Floyd didn't live up to his. Just like you don't think Pac hasn't fought a threat since the JMM rematch I can easily say that Floyd didn't fight a threat since the Castillo rematch until the Shane fight this past May. That is an 8 year span without fighting a threat. And, even then I can still shoot down that Shane fight with lame excuses just like you trying to shoot down Pac competition with lame excuses.

[Gutz]

I'm still trying to figure out how Tony got a fight with Manny.

blame Bob Arum..


Even as a Pac fan I dont agree with Manny fighthing Margocheato..

I would rather watch Berto, Cotto 2 , JMM 3, Alexender, Bradley vs Pac..

[boxingfan76]

The was not what I was questioning though. I asked a question about that statement you made. Which you clearly was wrong with that statement.

Yes the 8th title is crap. Neither fighter deserves it. No doubt it.

But, my question had nothing to do with that.

You said he fights fighters coming off a lost and included Cotto and Clotty. My question was which one of those fighters was coming off a lost?

Margarito was not coming off a lost yes he look bad against a club fighter but you also have to take into account that he was never a sharp fighter. And, he would be even less sharp coming off a 14 month layoff. So yes he was rusty. Plus he is not the same Marg he has slip some. He also is adding new dimensions and pick up on a new style with his new trainer. All that plays into account in his last fight. However, he is coming off a win. But, he still doesn't deserve it and is not a top 154 pounder. Nobody..... Well I am for sure am not saying he is.

Yea Hatton almost got KO'd but Hatton also almost got KO'd in the Collazo fight. What is your point? Hatton had been dropped before by a tomato can. Hatton had never the best punch resistance. But, now my question is why don't you mention the fight prior to the Pac fight that he beat a top 10 JWW? Yea Malignaggi didn't have any power. But, even without any power he made it to the top 10 rankings. And, Hatton beat him decisevely.

You said Pac hasn't fought top fighters since he beat JMM at 130. However, at the time he fought Hatton which was in May of 2009. Hatton was arguably the best JWW at 140 at worst he was #2. Yea it might been a weak division . But, he was a top fighter in that weight-class regardless. When Pac fought Cotto in November of 2009. At that time Cotto was arguable the #2 WW behind Shane at worst #3 behind Floyd and Shane. 2 very elite P4P players. So Cotto was a top fighter at WW at that time.

You say that Pac is not living up to the P4P status. And, you say you really not a Floyd fan. Which is cool I believe you. But, I will use Floyd as an example. The same way you just shot down Pac competition. I can easily shoot down Floyd level of competition and who he chose to fight ever since the Castillo rematch. The you said Pac is not living up to the P4P status I could also easily say that Floyd didn't live up to his. Just like you don't think Pac hasn't fought a threat since the JMM rematch I can easily say that Floyd didn't fight a threat since the Castillo rematch until the Shane fight this past May. That is an 8 year span without fighting a threat. And, even then I can still shoot down that Shane fight with lame excuses just like you trying to shoot down Pac competition with lame excuses.

well clottey is a b class fighter, even roach said this before the fight, he lost to cotto, and actually to give clottey credit he shouldve got the nod against cotto, my point is pac is all to happy to let arum have his way and keep things in house and fight guys that for one he almost will surley beat and two arent exactly the cream of the crop,,, cotto was coming off a devastating defeat in margs and a very unconvincing if not gift wij against clottey, cotto used to be great after margs not so much, he was a 10 to one under dog aginst pac for a reason. my point is pac fights guys on losing streak or when they simply not at their best, its not hate its the truth. and i hate floyd gayweather, he is even worse than manny when it comes to not facing the best and I agree he hasnt faced a legit opponent since castillo.of the two they are about equal, interms of opposition, u can say floyd beat the same opponents first and also u can say manny beat them better.what bothers me is they sell fights which arent worthy, and they get too much attention for not facing top guys. even delahoya would give us ppv where he was going to face top dogs. like i said manny hasnt really done that in 5 fights in a row.hatton was in a no mans land nobody at 140 really. but we know manny is a badass fighter, are these almost garunteed wins really necessarey? was a cotto fight necasarry? when mosley was a better fight and more worthy opponent based on recent history. mosley gets beat by pacman now, the only time that fight meant crap was after the margs win. clottey same not worth the price tag, and margs not so much either. I have no doubt neither manny nor floyd really want to fight each other than the fact that its just a really lucrative fight, for the same reason its almost a garunteed loss for either guy take ur pick as to which. its a 50 50 fight. that said i want to see some real fights too many ppvs for crap bouts. it ridiculous.

[imisupu]

When has Pac ever said he didn't want a Mosley fight? I've read that FREDDIE said no, but not Manny. Plus, they even said they'd fight Shane if he beat Floyd but obviously that didn't happen.



Well, its better than not fighting at all. He's staying active. Until FLoyd announces his next fight, Pac is sitting at #1.

Now everybody and they momma knows that Pacman is a Bob Arum/Freddie Roach robot, he does whatever they say he can fight but he doesn't have a mind of his own!

[pistol whip]

Pac wouldn't fight him last year he won't him this year or next year, he won't fight black Americans period, that fact still stands his record proves that.

Dude what the *** does skin color have to do with anything? Floyd Mayweather hardley ever fights African American fighters himself and he's black!

[budfr]

how can mosley look good with a guy who didnt want to fight acten like clottey n cheato deserve to fight pac ha get out of here have cotto fight mosley on dec 4 n i bet mosley will give a hell of a fight due to cotto style he wont win against cotto but two warriors who would go blow for blow

You idiot, Mosley hugs alot too.

[budfr]

Pac wouldn't fight him last year he won't him this year or next year, he won't fight black Americans period, that fact still stands his record proves that.

What?? He destroyed Clottey !!! He´s black. Anyways, nobody wants to watch a black fighter anymore, all they do is run and hug. We prefer Asians, Latinos, and Russians. Blacks are boring as hell.