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  • Truth
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    Toney vs. Jirov II

    "Jirov-Toney rematch appears to be in works

    Norm Frauenheim
    The Arizona Republic
    Aug. 1, 2005 12:00 AM

    Their careers went in different directions after the 2003 Fight of the Year, but the paths of Vassiliy Jirov and James Toney might intersect again in a rematch, offering another chance for the winner and only a dead end for the loser.

    A sequel to Toney's decision over Jirov for the International Boxing Federation's cruiserweight title 28 months ago emerged as a possibility last week.

    Jirov said he has yet to sign for a bout that would happen Oct. 1. advertisement




    "It looks like it is very possible," Jirov said Sunday from his home in Fountain Hills.

    Jirov has long sought a rematch of a bout - a brawl - that he thought he won.

    Meanwhile, Toney's management is casting about for options that would restore credibility eroded by a positive test for steroids after a victory over John Ruiz on April 30 for the World Boxing Association's heavyweight title.

    Other possibilities are said to be Kirk Johnson, Matt Skelton and Dominic Guinn, journeymen whose journeys have never included a marketable Fight of the Year.

    The bout would be Toney's first since the end of a 90-day suspension.

    Toney, who was stripped of the WBA title, said the steroids were part of the prescription in treatment for injuries to his left arm.

    Even before the positive test, there were questions about whether Toney, a former middleweight champion, could campaign as a real heavyweight. The steroids only managed to heighten the skepticism.

    For a different reason, the same issue confronts Jirov. His credentials as a legitimate heavyweight are doubtful.

    After losing his 190-pound title to Toney, he won two more bouts at the weight before moving up the scale. Since then, however, results have been mixed, with a 2-2-1 record, including most recently a draw with Orlin Norris.

    There are suggestions that Jirov just isn't big enough, that he would be better off at his old weight, but cruiser money is at the snoozer scale. If he fights Toney, he said, it would be as a heavyweight.

    "Of course," said Jirov, who said he is at about 227 pounds. "I feel better, stronger. In a rematch, I would just box more. I won the first one, but I'd be better in the second one. For me, it would be a big fight."

    Maybe his biggest."-azcentral.com
  • scap
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    What a great first fight....


    HAve no desire to see a second! Toney ruined Jirov who has taken way too much in the last couple years...Toney is basically a HW champion and Jirov has proven that he is no HW, no reason for this match to take place, Jirov as much as I love him is a shot fighter!

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    • DiegoFuego
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      lol, Toney is going to literally kill Jirov if they fight again. I give Jirov no shot at winning more than 3 rounds in this one, lol

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      • LuKahnLi
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        #4
        Fine with me. The first was exciting.

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          Originally posted by LuKahnLi
          Fine with me. The first was exciting.

          The second fight wont be exciting, it will be a complete beatdown...Jirov is well on his way to becoming a vegtable and this fight will speed that process up.

          Jirov is going to have some serious problems down the road, someone needs to help this kid otherwise it will get ugly.

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          • Double
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            #6
            It's funny how the toughest guys who can take the best punch are the ones who suffer the most from long term damage, (Ali, Ray Robinson, Joe Louis and maybe soon Jirov)

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            • Derranged_
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              #7
              Of the four fighters(Guinn,Jirov,Skelton,Johnson) mentioned as possible opponents for James Toney, I think that a fight against (and exciting win) over Jirov would make him the most money and give Light's Out the most publicity. Jirov is reconized as a skillful and tough boxer, probably more so than any of the others mentioned.

              However, I don't see this as being a great test of skill and strength for Toney and making him more legit than any of the other contenders out there. What I would like to see is a bout between him and Calvin Brock. I win over a quality opponent such as Brock would certainly make Toney a more credible heavyweight contender.

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              • riz
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                #8
                jirov sohuldn't do this man, hes too small for heavyweight

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