Only idiots think fighters 60 years on back would be competitive today

[Hous]

given their condition. Our fighters today are bigger, stronger and faster then they ever were. Why? Because they aren't goinghave into it alone now, now they have researchers (nutritionist, fitness experts) who conduct research to find the most positive results. This allows them to find the maximum balance of muscle to body frame / weight for strength and speed. They now have tapes to study and research other fighters methods in detail. Fighters back then didn't have this luxery. Science makes the difference.

Humans make fables about the past neglecting logic, its natural.

[Hous]

Everything we do gets better with technology, we just remanence about times past.

[Dawerlzgreatest]

Yes we can clearly see that techology, so called nutrition experts, have helped make people stronger, faster. Look at the american public.

[Left Hook Tua]

given their condition. Our fighters today are bigger, stronger and faster then they ever were. Why? Because they aren't goinghave into it alone now, now they have researchers (nutritionist, fitness experts) who conduct research to find the most positive results. This allows them to find the maximum balance of muscle to body frame / weight for strength and speed. They now have tapes to study and research other fighters methods in detail. Fighters back then didn't have this luxery. Science makes the difference.

Humans make fables about the past neglecting logic, its natural.

definitely true for the heavyweights.

not so much for the lower weight classes.


the thing is with the lower weight classes is to compare guys from before to guys a couple divisions below them now.

example: it would be unfair to compare henry armstrong to modern welterweights and lightweights.

henry armstrong is about the same size as say marco antonio barrera.

in fact ceferino garcia who he challenged for the middleweight title is about the same size as say jose luis castillo when he was fighting at lightweight.

[ИATAS]

So you're saying Sugar Ray Robinson wouldn't be competitive today? give me a break, he would dominate the WW division.

Listen, there was more talent back then there was today. That means in order to be a great back then, you had to fight tougher opposition. In today's world you can fight bums 20-30 times, fight a couple champs and your a top dog. Back then nearly every one was a tough fight.

Think about it - NY had over 50 boxing gyms over 50 years ago. Now there are about 3. The pool of good fighters back then was insanely deep compared to today.

Your point would make sense for heavyweights only, especially the old timers that weighed like 185 pounds and ****, they would be just too small.

[JOZ]

given their condition. Our fighters today are bigger, stronger and faster then they ever were. Why? Because they aren't goinghave into it alone now, now they have researchers (nutritionist, fitness experts) who conduct research to find the most positive results. This allows them to find the maximum balance of muscle to body frame / weight for strength and speed. They now have tapes to study and research other fighters methods in detail. Fighters back then didn't have this luxery. Science makes the difference.

Humans make fables about the past neglecting logic, its natural.

So lets put up some fantasy matches a let us discuss because that what it come down too. lets say fighters from the 40's to the 80' versus boxers from 90's to 2010. In your argument modern boxers are superior to past era's for the reasons you stated. Please give examples of modern boxers vs the era's I stated and lets discuss.

[Left Hook Tua]

So you're saying Sugar Ray Robinson wouldn't be competitive today? give me a break, he would dominate the WW division.

Listen, there was more talent back then there was today. That means in order to be a great back then, you had to fight tougher opposition. In today's world you can fight bums 20-30 times, fight a couple champs and your a top dog. Back then nearly every one was a tough fight.

Think about it - NY had over 50 boxing gyms over 50 years ago. Now there are about 3. The pool of good fighters back then was insanely deep compared to today.

boxers then were always in good shape because they fought every other week if not every week too.

guys now go 6 months to a year without training or fighting or being in fighting shape.

[Medved]

Everything we do gets better with technology, we just remanence about times past.

Yep, I made a topic about this earlier and people bashed me for me calling the ATG fighting bums, the technology, the science, everything is better today. This goes for ALL sports.

Compare the 100m times 60 years ago with todays times.
Compare basketball players
compare swimmers.

I dont know why people get so fantasized about all the old guys like they were ATG. They were fighting in a era where there was no drug testing and bribery/corruption was common place. Very few boxers made a living and most fought working class joes who were out of shape fighting for booze money.

[Medved]

found the thread http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=421319

[Chups]

That's the reason why ATG list is all about the resume......not skills. 100 years from now with advance in nutrition and technology, boxers will be better than the fighters of today.