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  • BennyST
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    #61
    You know, this is the reason why boxing is dying. All the ****ing 'stars' are a bunch of whining little *****es now. It's impossible to make the main fights that need to happen.

    Years ago, there was no stopping the main fights. They happened because both fighters were willing to do anything and fight anyone on their way up. Now you have guys like Berto, Chavez, Williams, Mayweather, Pac....****, all the main guys and they don't want to fight anyone.

    It's a goddamned disgrace. He's going to cancel what could not only be the biggest, and maybe best, fight this year but what could ultimately be the biggest fight of his career. He's young, undefeated and going up against a great, experienced champ from PR. It's huge! But, he doesn't want to fly to the Phillipines to get the best sparring he's ever going to get against the best fighter in thw rold who also happened to beat Cotto? What the ****?

    When all these fights don't happen, people (fans) just say that "Oh, he would have beaten him anyway. He's way too good" but in boxing that's the great thing. No one ever knows really who is going to win and the best fighters are found out because they fight everyone.

    Dawson fighting Pascal recently. If that didn't happen, people would have just said he didn't need to because Dawson is so much better and would have whipped him anyway. This is why the old timers were so good. They fought everyone in every style from the tenth ranked guy to the number one guy. You knew how good they were and we got the best fights because of it. It means they had losses but it also means they fought the best, beat the best and we saw the best fights. **** me, today's game is more about Diva **** than fighting.
    Last edited by BennyST; 09-14-2010, 10:27 PM.

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    • freedom213
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      #62
      Originally posted by boxingfan76
      why would he not get away withit ,??who is cotto? what has he done latley except get his ass beat??? really man what part about cotto has impressed anyone in his last 5 outings?????? jr is b -class yes. but cotto is shot.his face busts up, he lacks stamina always has, is older, runs and breaks down when the going gets tough. plus hes been beaten and beaten and beaten, I dont get it bro. on top of that will be much smaller and is mentally scarred for life his confidence destroyed.this cotto phenomenon is just outta this world I dont know when losers all the sudden became winners for being losers.i feel bad for cotto hes gonna die one of these days the way he gets beat up.
      Ok your an idiot, can you get banned already or what. I understand being a fan of boxer X and I wont rule out the fact that Chavez could beat Cotto, but it aint likely. Probably his best shot to beat Cotto would be to hope that Cotto Shoulder is trashed after this surgery. Regardless you throw your posts around with no regard to reality, it truly pathetic dude. What are you like 14, maybe 16? If not you a sad dude. Go get educated come back then we can discuss why you think Chavez will brutalize Cotto.

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      • freedom213
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        #63
        Originally posted by BennyST
        You know, this is the reason why boxing is dying. All the ****ing 'stars' are a bunch of whining little *****es now. It's impossible to make the main fights that need to happen.

        Years ago, there was no stopping the main fights. They happened because both fighters were willing to do anything and fight anyone on their way up. Now you have guys like Berto, Chavez, Williams, Mayweather, Pac....****, all the main guys and they don't want to fight anyone.

        It's a goddamned disgrace. He's going to cancel what could not only be the biggest, and maybe best, fight this year but what could ultimately be the biggest fight of his career. He's young, undefeated and going up against a great, experienced champ from PR. It's huge! But, he doesn't want to fly to the Phillipines to get the best sparring he's ever going to get against the best fighter in thw rold who also happened to beat Cotto? What the ****?

        When all these fights don't happen, people (fans) just say that "Oh, he would have beaten him anyway. He's way too good" but in boxing that's the great thing. No one ever knows really who is going to win and the best fighters are found out because they fight everyone.

        Dawson fighting Pascal recently. If that didn't happen, people would have just said he didn't need to because Dawson is so much better and would have whipped him anyway. This is why the old timers were so good. They fought everyone in every style from the tenth ranked guy to the number one guy. You knew how good they were and we got the best fights because of it. It means they had losses but it also means they fought the best, beat the best and we saw the best fights. **** me, today's game is more about Diva **** than fighting.
        agree completely.

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        • jmtnzprs7
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          #64
          Originally posted by boxingfan76
          uhh nooo . ill take the guy thats 41-0 and getting better not the guy who lost 3 out of his last 5.that jr is b-grade in this case it does not matter.cotto has had a long career of taking incredible ass beatings even in victory.bums or no bums they punch back, and I garuntee u the biggest bum on jr record would beat your ass. cotto is a cool guy with lots of class but his days at the top are over he was bareley ever there .or at least very breifly was there.cotto has to prove more people wrong than jr does thats for sure. he looked like **** in his last 5 fights, and frankly mr 3kos foreman wouldve beat that azz had he not broken his foot.
          Dude I should probably just stop here cuz its obvious your a moron.... Cotto has lost 2 out of 5 get your facts right bro, and even those 2 losts were to who? lets see 1st lost to a man which many at the time called the most feared boxer in the world Margacheato, and everyone that uses sense knows he cheated, and his 2nd loss is to the pound 4 pound king Pacman with drugs or not he beat his ass, so how can having 2 losses be degrading.

          Name the fights where you swear Cotto got his ass kicked? come on boy do your research...

          Dude I can tell your a little boy with that comment ( I garuntee u the biggest bum on jr record would beat your ass ) first because you dont know how to spell and second thats plain out ******, but maybe if I was smaller and could make that weight and I was a professional boxer I could fight one them lmao

          Do you really believe that Cotto has to prove more people wrong than Jr does, really you believe that man Im just wasting my time with people like you, and by the way Cotto was winning the fight with Foreman by decision no questions asked he might not have got the KO but he would of won the decision but since you obviously dont know about the sport of boxing you wouldnt understand the difference between a win by ko and win by decision lmao

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          • jmtnzprs7
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            #65
            Originally posted by El Talegon
            the thing with cotto he is wasted shot you cotto fans just had enough of loosing. jr has no loses, take it how u want. cotto will get ktfo, jr aint no foreman with a peewee punch, the same punches that were landing on iron chin duddey will drop cotto to his favorite position ON HIS KNEES blive that homie. u said it aint about where the fighter is from but then again u talk mad **** always when it comes down to mexican fighters. chavez jr fans will outsell cotto fans in ny, nj. bring that **** to the west coast and cotto barely has any fans. My prediction Jr. kos cotto in the 10th rnd
            I still dont get where neither of you get that Chavez will beat Cotto dude if you guys are going off of his only good performance against Duddy I feel sorry for you Duddy dont even got KO power and yet staggered Jr and where do you get duddy has an iron chin lol I guess will wait to see if the fight is really gonna happen or if its all hype because for the last few months Ive heard Jrs name mentioned against Pavlik, against Martinez and its all been BS if he steps in the ring with Cotto Ill give him props for finally taking a fight against a well known fighter no more chumps

            One last thing when do I talk mad **** about Mexican fighters dude I talk **** of any fighter that is worthless no matter where he comes from, its just people like you that come on here talking madness about a fighter that hasnt fought anyone and hasnt proved anything and yet you still have balls to trash talk about a Rican fighter that has fought everyone and has never ducked any of the best win or lose....think before you speak

            I would be complete idiot if I said all PR fighters are good and Mexican fighters are not dude im just realistic both countries produce top dogs but not all are good no matter how they promote them its plain and simple be happy that his dad was good Jr still dont got it maybe one day he will but for the moment he hasnt proved to me or any real boxing fan he will.

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            • jmtnzprs7
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              #66
              Originally posted by freedom213
              Ok your an idiot, can you get banned already or what. I understand being a fan of boxer X and I wont rule out the fact that Chavez could beat Cotto, but it aint likely. Probably his best shot to beat Cotto would be to hope that Cotto Shoulder is trashed after this surgery. Regardless you throw your posts around with no regard to reality, it truly pathetic dude. What are you like 14, maybe 16? If not you a sad dude. Go get educated come back then we can discuss why you think Chavez will brutalize Cotto.
              Totally agree bro

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              • jmtnzprs7
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                #67
                Originally posted by boxingfan76
                dude we dont accept reality ???but cotto has been outpunched handily in his last 4 fights???who doesnt accept reality?. ill tell u what jr has NEVER been outconnected.if u think cotto has anything left u r str8 up delusional bro hes looked like **** against 2nd rate guys!!!! clottey is 2nd rate,foreman is b-grade and margs was first class a took everything cotto had and asked for more!!and the pac ass beating im not even going there that speaks for itself.forman was winning until he broke his foot that wouldve otherwise been another lopsided win.guy with 3kos had cotto wobbling lol. how can u cotto clowns sit there and talk down to us jr fans when your boy loses and loses and loses and loses??????ive never come accross fans this reluctant to face the facts man, seriously. I accept jr will never be as good as his dad but he has every tool he needs to beat cotto and beat him good.what does cotto have? a name he aint got crap left, not size, not fortitude, cuts like ****, lacks stamina lacks heart no no no choosing cotto is nothing more than pride.yall are always wrong. clottey was robbed hard!!! beat tha **** outta cotto.landed 48 punches more and cotto still got the decision!! I honestley havent met a fan that feels that cotto won that fight.yall should just stay quiet cuz ur boy cotto will let u down and make u look dumber.cotto has class and is a cool guy but its over for him .
                your a joke bro...

                you still havent answered my question, so which fight of his 40 pro fights makes you so sure that he can beat Cotto, I mean pick 1, please just name 1 of the 40 aguacates hes faced that really convince you seriously make me a believer you say Im blind I dont except ok then make me a believer

                Im gonna step out of my Puerto Rican shell for 1 moment make me a believer tell me something I dont know or I should know about Jr that will change my mind and all the minds in here that Jr is no way in the class of Cotto for as shot and old and beat up as you say he is

                Just answer me that and if you can make me a believer Ill put a picture of Jr on my avatar lol

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                • Cotto 54/10
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                  #68
                  Hopefully this fight happens, i will be rooting for Cotto.

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                  • STREET CLEANER
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by El Talegon
                    he can take a punch. cotto got dazed with malignagi and foreman guys with no power. cotto has no chin chavez jr does. look what happend to cotto on the margarito fight. the same will happen this time.
                    Chavez hasn't faced anybody that hits as hard and this skillful to date. Chavez is no where near Margarito. If you want to bet on it I'll relieve you from the points that you have

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                    • El Talegon
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                      Chavez hasn't faced anybody that hits as hard and this skillful to date. Chavez is no where near Margarito. If you want to bet on it I'll relieve you from the points that you have
                      alriht bro. lets just wait for the fight to happen and am all in.

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