why manny is not overrated.

[Ryannn]

see what i mean? always angry

they are really angry at floyd for being a bitch.

they divert their hate to something else....

[Pacquiao'd]

how? are we jealous? to whom? floyd? hahahahahaha

pac > floyd


we dont need to be jealous......

cant wait to hear you tards excuses after floyd beats pacs ass and kos him

[whirlwind]

cant wait to hear you tards excuses after floyd beats pacs ass and kos him

Another fantasy coulda woulda brought to you by a *****. Did Floyd already back from vacation?

[Syf]

He came up 7 WEIGHT CLASSES. He is dominating opponents that are supposed to beat him. He is the first boxer in history to do this. Not 4,5,6, but 7 weight classes. Most boxers go up 2 weight classes and get beat up. He is a certified monster. Period. Point. Blank.

Pac is a great fighter..


but two things...

its Point. Blank. Period...


And this whole 7 weight classes thing.. they have so many titles now compared to the good old days.. heck they invented some titles just for Pac.. I don't think that stands up to the test of time. Its.....inflated somehow. Also Pac can take advantage of recent advancement in nutritional and training science and techniques that simply weren't available in the older eras.

[Syf]

i give you point there...but pac came from 3rd world country....why does those who came from rich country didnt take also this advance method that you say pac took?

its a good point.. He did come from a poor environment. But to get where he is now, he needed world class nutrition and training.

I'm not saying Pac isn't one of the best of our era. He is. My sticking point is when people put him above ATG's like SRR and Ali off the strength of this multiple weight class/titles argument..

When people say that, he is in fact being overrated.

[Syf]

good point also....personally i think he is below those guys you mentioned. but..... i put him top 10 and above floyd for what he did to boxing today.

I had Pac rated higher than Floyd until Floyd fought SSM. I know people say SSM was old..shot, ect. But I really do give Floyd alot of credit for that fight.. But Pac is right up there with Floyd

[whirlwind]

Pac is a great fighter..


but two things...

its Point. Blank. Period...


And this whole 7 weight classes thing.. they have so many titles now compared to the good old days.. heck they invented some titles just for Pac.. I don't think that stands up to the test of time. Its.....inflated somehow. Also Pac can take advantage of recent advancement in nutritional and training science and techniques that simply weren't available in the older eras.

So are these nutritional, science training and new techniques already available when Pac started Pro Boxing at the age of 16? A poor starving kid sleeping at cardbox in the streets of Manila doing the advanced nutrition, science training and techniques? WTF!

[Syf]

maybe the only defining moment for both of them is to fight each other and see who ever comes victorious

You and me both want that to happen brother... I can't describe to you how disappointed i've been over this last year that "The Fight" kept falling through

So are these nutritional, science training and new techniques already available when Pac started Pro Boxing at the age of 16? A poor starving kid sleeping at cardbox in the streets of Manila doing the advanced nutrition, science training and techniques? WTF!

No, thats not what I was saying. When he was a starving kid, he was malnourished and below his natural weight.. then he gradually started to fill out as he went.. but everything 140+ and even to a lesser extent the 130's was thanks largely in part to advances in nutrition and training science that he took advantage of. Resources that weren't available to fighters of bygone eras.

[whirlwind]

I had Pac rated higher than Floyd until Floyd fought SSM. I know people say SSM was old..shot, ect. But I really do give Floyd alot of credit for that fight.. But Pac is right up there with Floyd

Pac did much much better to their common opponents Oscar and Hatton. Pac beat Cotto who beat the much younger version of Mosley not the grandpa version fought by Floyd. Plus Floyd accomplishments were subpar compared to Pac.

[Syf]

Pac did much much better to their common opponents Oscar and Hatton. Pac beat Cotto who beat the much younger version of Mosley not the grandpa version fought by Floyd. Plus Floyd accomplishments were subpar compared to Pac.

Oscar and Hatton were...."fresher" against Floyd. How much fresher really is up for debate.


and Triangle theories? really?


Well Cotto beat Mosley but got destroyed by Margarito..but Marg got decapitated by Mosley.


There's a triangle theory for u.. exed out