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  • THE REED
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    #31
    Originally posted by wazaa.
    Then tell me... why do you see Little Timmeh beating Amir? How will the fight play out?
    Not in the mood to type 5 paragraphs.

    I'm sure MIB can tell you.

    Either way, Bradley > Amir, it's a wrap.

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      #32
      These are the qualities in Bradley that will give him the edge on Khan,


      • footwork

      • boxing skills, lateral, upper-body and head movement, feints

      • body punching

      • inside game

      • chin/recoverability

      • timing

      • conditioning

      • athleticism (Khan is generally athletic, but Bradley's athleticism is ideal for boxing)

      • roundedness, versatility, adaptability, has more wrinkles in his game

      • ring IQ




      So how is Khan out-skilling Bradley or holding most of the advantages?
      His hands are flashier, he's a more dynamic puncher, he's taller and longer, he has a very nice jab. Eveything else, plus a whole bunch of intangibles, goes to Bradley.

      Bradley also knows how to use his smaller stature in his favor, how to make it an advantage.

      The trend of pro-Khan wisdom that Amir holds all the advantages is somewhat unsupported, since all I ever see mentioned is size, power, speed, as if Bradley is slow and everything else he has in his favor doesn't exist.


      And, re. the corners; while Bradley doesn't have a star-trainer and Khan may be perceived to have the stronger corner in Roach,Diaz guy isn't just a motivator with no practical/tactical advice to impart. He chides Bradley and points out his mistakes where necessary and gives practical, sharp, on-point instruction between rounds. Like Roach, Bradley and Diaz watch a lot of tape and study their opponents long and hard together, and this is evidenced in Tim's fights - he has shown different nuances to his game and a different key weapon has surfaced in each of Bradley's championship fights (which have seen him take on a depth of styles).

      Bradley is a supremely conditioned athletic technician with an abundance of ring IQ, experience, a deep skillset, a full bag of trade tricks and a lot of desire - if he endures any frustration against Khan, that desire/determination couple with his ability to find answers will make it shortlived.

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        #33
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        Not in the mood to type 5 paragraphs.

        I'm sure MIB can tell you.

        Either way, Bradley > Amir, it's a wrap.
        This right here will cost you your BoxingScene reputation. When the fight is done and Amir has beaten Timmeh nobody will take your opinion seriously anymore.

        I will retire you, big guy.

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          #34
          Originally posted by wazaa.
          why should I shush, I can give my opinion can't I .
          Ofc,


          at least think about it, though. I'm not even a fan of Tim per se, more an admirer -- and I'm on Amir's wagon from here on out if his next fight is Maidana and he intends to continue that trend of fighting the best in his division -- so I'm not predisposed to back Bradley in this matchup.



          I just think you're sleeping on Tim a lot. Especially if you think the only thing Khan will have to deal with is the guy's 'mobility'.

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          • THE REED
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            #35
            Originally posted by wazaa.
            This right here will cost you your BoxingScene reputation. When the fight is done and Amir has beaten Timmeh nobody will take your opinion seriously anymore.

            I will retire you, big guy.
            You're not retiring anybody.

            Amir Khan will retire you, just like you said... when Amir Khan is done, so will you.

            Because Amir Khan comes before the sport to you.

            You're an Amir fan, not a boxing fan.. you've said it yourself.

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            • sicko
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              #36
              Originally posted by wazaa.
              Then tell me... why do you see Little Timmeh beating Amir? How will the fight play out?
              Bradley head movement will take away that Soft but Quick Jab of Khan and the reach advantage

              Bradley will get inside and work the body, he don't even need to worry about getting to that to that Glass Chin, Bradley will look to do Damage to the body while Khan so Worried about protecting that Chin which is Made Out of Egg Shells lol

              Pressure BURST PIPES, all you have to do against Khan is Apply the Pressure and watch him BURST because he doesn't want to get into a fight, all he wants to do is stay behind that quick Jab all night and try to get it to the Cards

              He will be able to Jab and Run from Maidana for 12 because Maidana is slow and has HORRIBLE Footwork but even Maidana can catch him if he goes to the body early and get Khan to open up and then get to that Weak Chin

              Khan is VERY beatable...oh wait...he already been beat:


              Last edited by sicko; 09-07-2010, 03:20 PM.

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              • wazaa.
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                #37
                Originally posted by RAGE OF ANGELS
                These are the qualities in Bradley that will give him the edge on Khan,


                • footwork

                • boxing skills, lateral, upper-body and head movement, feints

                • body punching

                • inside game

                • chin/recoverability

                • timing

                • conditioning

                • athleticism (Khan is generally athletic, but Bradley's athleticism is ideal for boxing)

                • roundedness, versatility, adaptability, has more wrinkles in his game

                • ring IQ




                So how is Khan out-skilling Bradley or holding most of the advantages?
                His hands are flashier, he's a more dynamic puncher, he's taller and longer, he has a very nice jab. Eveything else, plus a whole bunch of intangibles, goes to Bradley.

                Bradley also knows how to use his smaller stature in his favor, how to make it an advantage.

                The trend of pro-Khan wisdom that Amir holds all the advantages is somewhat unsupported, since all I ever see mentioned is size, power, speed, as if Bradley is slow and everything else he has in his favor doesn't exist.


                And, re. the corners; while Bradley doesn't have a star-trainer and Khan may be perceived to have the stronger corner in Roach,Diaz guy isn't just a motivator with no practical/tactical advice to impart. He chides Bradley and points out his mistakes where necessary and gives practical, sharp, on-point instruction between rounds. Like Roach, Bradley and Diaz watch a lot of tape and study their opponents long and hard together, and this is evidenced in Tim's fights - he has shown different nuances to his game and a different key weapon has surfaced in each of Bradley's championship fights (which have seen him take on a depth of styles).

                Bradley is a supremely conditioned athletic technician with an abundance of ring IQ, experience, a deep skillset, a full bag of trade tricks and a lot of desire - if he endures any frustration against Khan, that desire/determination couple with his ability to find answers will make it shortlived.
                I agree on the movements and faints point.

                But Amir is not gonna let him come on the inside. Amirs feet are as fast as Bradleys and will keep him of with his jab.

                I have read it all but youre also forgetting one other thing. Bradley is already in his prime... Amir isn't. Amir in the Malignaggi fight was a totally different Amir as in the Kotelnik fight. Two more fights under his belt and we will even see more improvements.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by wazaa.
                  This right here will cost you your BoxingScene reputation. When the fight is done and Amir has beaten Timmeh nobody will take your opinion seriously anymore.

                  I will retire you, big guy.
                  Ok,


                  let's just entertain the thought that Bradley beats Khan - humor me, just for a second.


                  What's your plan?

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                  • wazaa.
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    You're not retiring anybody.

                    Amir Khan will retire you, just like you said... when Amir Khan is done, so will you.

                    Because Amir Khan comes before the sport to you.

                    You're an Amir fan, not a boxing fan.. you've said it yourself.
                    Some people know when it's time to retire unlike Roy.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by sicko
                      Bradley head movement will take away that Soft but Quick Jab of Khan and the reach advantage

                      Bradley will get inside and work the body, he don't even need to worry about getting to that to that Glass Chin, Bradley will look to do Damage to the body while Khan so Worried about protecting that Chin which is Made Out of Egg Shells lol

                      Pressure BURST PIPES, all you have to do against Khan is Apply the Pressure and watch him BURST because he doesn't want to get into a fight, all he wants to do is stay behind that quick Jab all night and try to get it to the Cards

                      He will be able to Jab and Run from Maidana for 12 because Maidana is slow and has HORRIBLE Footwork but even Maidana can catch him if he goes to the body early and get Khan to open up and then get to that Weak Chin

                      Khan is VERY beatable...oh wait...he already been beat:


                      I'm sorry but I stopped reading after I read that.



                      Plz edit that and I will try to read your entire post. Thank you.

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