What makes a fighter elite ?

**SliqueJab** · 07-26-2005, 10:41 PM

First he has to have potential physically like skills, quickness, power, reflex, strong chin etc and later be mentally strong like not quitting and give it all out, etc. Second he has to fight the best fighter the world has to offer, no mismandatories, no ducking nobody and beat them convincingly and most preferably knock them out. Third they have to defy the odds which means not every fight is their to win (like fighting bums) and few times they are the underdog. Fourth they have to be on that level for a period of time and prove it again and again. Right now only Hopkins and Mayweather fit the bill.

**AIR_KENG** · 07-26-2005, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by SUPER ZAB FAN

The question has come up as to what makes a fighter ELite ?
I believe wins over good Competition over a extended period of time makes you ELite . Wins over a host of bums and figthing once a year does not make you ELite .

For Ex. One of the Current ELite Fighters right now has to be PBF because he stays active and holds wins over pretty stiff competition. WHat do you all think ?

skills, level of competition and a crowd drawer...

**Manny_P** · 07-26-2005, 10:48 PM

Consistency, wanting betta comp, ducks nobody, talented, not easily dominated, wins alot mo than he loses......etc

**JUYJUY** · 07-26-2005, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by SliqueJab

First he has to have potential physically like skills, quickness, power, reflex, strong chin etc and later be mentally strong like not quitting and give it all out, etc. Second he has to fight the best fighter the world has to offer, no mismandatories, no ducking nobody and beat them convincingly and most preferably knock them out. Third they have to defy the odds which means not every fight is their to win (like fighting bums) and few times they are the underdog. Fourth they have to be on that level for a period of time and prove it again and again. Right now only Hopkins and Mayweather fit the bill.

Lol!! According to that criteria - nodody fits the bill, ever.

**The Troll** · 07-26-2005, 11:07 PM

Accomplishments make a fighter "elite." Nothing else.

**.::EnRiQuE::.** · 07-26-2005, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by JUYJUY

Lol!! According to that criteria - nodody fits the bill, ever.

LoL! i was thinking the same thing. it was a lil too strict of criteria for anyone to make it into.

**scap** · 07-26-2005, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by McKay

Accomplishments make a fighter "elite." Nothing else.

What if a fighter has decent or fair accomplishments and a huge penis? Isnt that why everyone said Bonecrusher Smith was so great/elite?

**TyrantT316** · 07-26-2005, 11:17 PM

elite I think is as simple as fighting the best in your class, being consistent in both losing and winning efforts vs the best in your class...

nothing to do with whether you have quick release right hand, or explosive power...

it is about consistency at the top and winning more than you lose vs B to A level opposition in conjunction to the time of your career.

there can be 2-6 elite fighters within a division...that does not make you a legend though...basically what you listed SliqueJab is the makings of a great fighter and a legend...

**scap** · 07-26-2005, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by TyrantT316

elite I think is as simple as fighting the best in your class, being consistent in both losing and winning efforts vs the best in your class...

nothing to do with whether you have quick release right hand, or explosive power...

it is about consistency at the top and winning more than you lose vs B to A level opposition in conjunction to the time of your career.

there can be 2-6 elite fighters within a division...that does not make you a legend though...basically what you listed SliqueJab is the makings of a great fighter and a legend...

Im going to have to show this post to my friend Richie, I think you hit the nail on the head...I have been saying that a huge penis has nothing to do with being elite for years but I just gave Richie the benefit of the doubt because he has been watching boxing since 84 and I picked up on the sport in 85...Bonecrusher Smith....elite? I know bettter than that!

In all seriousness I agree with what you said, there can be a number of elite fighters in a division at a givien time but legends are far from elite.

What makes a fighter elite ?