Jones vs Tarver III looks to be ON

[spinksjinx]

yeah thats what he is going to have to do, he cant fight like he did the seciond time around when he got really aggressive with tarver early. then we all know what happened after that

Which is why I think he shouldnt come back. Any fight he takes now he will have to be alert and cautious and if Roy fights more cautious than he use to do than it will do nothing for him. Roy has his legacy and I think he should retire. I hope this fight isnt ppv because I know I sure as hell wouldnt pay for it.

[restless_438]

Which is why I think he shouldnt come back. Any fight he takes now he will have to be alert and cautious and if Roy fights more cautious than he use to do than it will do nothing for him. Roy has his legacy and I think he should retire. I hope this fight isnt ppv because I know I sure as hell wouldnt pay for it.

oh, you know as well as i do that there is no way the higher-ups at HBO will ever put this on anything but PPV, regardless of the result, it will sell buys.

i dont know what to think about this fight.... i want Roy to avenge his losses, for him to win would make my year. i just don't know, but i would buy it simply because he's my favorite fighter and always will be, his legacy will always be good in my book.

[spinksjinx]

oh, you know as well as i do that there is no way the higher-ups at HBO will ever put this on anything but PPV, regardless of the result, it will sell buys.

i dont know what to think about this fight.... i want Roy to avenge his losses, for him to win would make my year. i just don't know, but i would buy it simply because he's my favorite fighter and always will be, his legacy will always be good in my book.

See thats the thing, I dont think he needs that fight for his legacy as in my eyes he peaked after beating Ruiz and after that fight he accomplished as much as he was capable of. Which is tremendous. Roy never brought in huge numbers anyway and his last fight was a regular telecast and he got knocked out again. Certainly nobody would really want to pay for it. If the fight happened immediately after the KO the hype would have still been their since it isnt like Tarver completely shut down Roy and then knocked him out. The only way this will sell will be completely on the Jones name alone.

My pick is Jones by UD, Roy might have slipped but Tarver isnt the same fighter either. If Roy came in prime and motivated he would wipe him out. But I have no interest in the fight, it would be nice but wouldnt satisfy me any.

Although I do believe if Roy avenged both of his losses in fantastic fashion the 2 ko's would be ignored but isnt likely. Roy would get heavily criticized for the way he would fight and get labeled "scared".

[Bombardier]

If this fight's on PPV it might die because a lot of fans will hold out and pay for the Oct. 8 Showtime card instead. If you have to choose between one or the other then it's pretty obvious which one if the one to go with. That alone might scare them off of this date, because I can't see them putting Roy on regular HBO if he would consider it an insult.

[restless_438]

See thats the thing, I dont think he needs that fight for his legacy as in my eyes he peaked after beating Ruiz and after that fight he accomplished as much as he was capable of. Which is tremendous. Roy never brought in huge numbers anyway and his last fight was a regular telecast and he got knocked out again. Certainly nobody would really want to pay for it. If the fight happened immediately after the KO the hype would have still been their since it isnt like Tarver completely shut down Roy and then knocked him out. The only way this will sell will be completely on the Jones name alone.

My pick is Jones by UD, Roy might have slipped but Tarver isnt the same fighter either. If Roy came in prime and motivated he would wipe him out. But I have no interest in the fight, it would be nice but wouldnt satisfy me any.

Although I do believe if Roy avenged both of his losses in fantastic fashion the 2 ko's would be ignored but isnt likely. Roy would get heavily criticized for the way he would fight and get labeled "scared".

very good points..

[PBDS]

i dont know y ppl would want to c this. i mean this aint when hagler retired cuz he lost a close decision.... RJJ has been KO'd twice in a row. against johnson he was owned.

this is pointless for jones, and i highly recommend he doesn't do this

...I couldn't have said it better myself. He gets another brutal beating and he will be slurring like Bowe in 5 years. His ego is going to get him killed.

[guru]

have to call BS on this... there's no way rj is gonna come back from 2 straight KO losses with a rematch with tarver... he shouldn't even be fighting anymore much less fighting AT again...

[spinksjinx]

If this fight's on PPV it might die because a lot of fans will hold out and pay for the Oct. 8 Showtime card instead. If you have to choose between one or the other then it's pretty obvious which one if the one to go with. That alone might scare them off of this date, because I can't see them putting Roy on regular HBO if he would consider it an insult.

I wouldnt pay for either...Showtime is really screwing the fans by putting that on ppv. I mean they gave us Hatton vs Tszyu and a plethora of other fights for free. They are cashing in on it because of it being labeled the best fight ever. But Corrales has stated he wanted 1 war and he had it and he would box Castillo. I bet the rematch wont be nearly as exciting because Corrales knows he wont get the opportunity he had in the first fight.

[Bombardier]

I wouldnt pay for either...Showtime is really screwing the fans by putting that on ppv. I mean they gave us Hatton vs Tszyu and a plethora of other fights for free. They are cashing in on it because of it being labeled the best fight ever. But Corrales has stated he wanted 1 war and he had it and he would box Castillo. I bet the rematch wont be nearly as exciting because Corrales knows he wont get the opportunity he had in the first fight.

Yeah, I have a feeling Corrales is going to spend most of the time on the outside, especially seeing as he was more or less forced into this rematch. Like you said he's not looking to do battle again. He didn't sound right for weeks after the last one, I don't think he's looking to absorb that much damage again.

The whole rematch thing is starting to piss my off anyway. We have three guaranteed plus the Chavez fight, which I don't know the status of. Is it really getting so hard to make matchups that guys have to keep fighting each other over and over? The Morales-Pacquiao match is completely unnecessary...Morales dominated him pretty much wire to wire. Arce ran into some trouble but otherwise killed Hussein as well. And like you said Corrales-Castillo is nothing but a money grab.

[restless_438]

The whole rematch thing is starting to piss my off anyway. We have three guaranteed plus the Chavez fight, which I don't know the status of. Is it really getting so hard to make matchups that guys have to keep fighting each other over and over? The Morales-Pacquiao match is completely unnecessary...Morales dominated him pretty much wire to wire. Arce ran into some trouble but otherwise killed Hussein as well. And like you said Corrales-Castillo is nothing but a money grab.

i agree with you. and i have this feeling that much of the problem stems from the fact that alot of the "top executive" guys at HBO and Showtime are hesitant to go with anything anywhere near "outside" the boundaries. "Afraid to take a chance" you might say. Those rematches are the only fights they feel "comfortable" with that will make them $$$ for sure. so that's what they'll go with as their first option, because in the end, it will make them $$$.