An Intelligent Defense of Pac vs Margo

[IMDAZED]

There's no need to defend it. It is what it is - a stay busy bout for Pacquiao. Only idiots take the belt aspect of it seriously.

[rj_ct]

Some of you make some excellent points but the bottom line in all of this is MONEY.

That's why it makes me shake my head when some of you don't understand this. Marg is a bigger draw because of the Mexican fight crowd and it being held in Texas.

It's an easy, made to order opponent for Marg and not a threatening fight before he tried to get the Floyd Mayweather fight.

Nothing more nothing less.

Which is why it's wrong. I think all boxing fans would love a sport based on actual rankings, with one champion per division, and the best fighting the best instead of the current ****show that is professional boxing. But if something is going to make money for a promoter, venue, television network, sanctioning body, and the fighters, then the "sport" aspect is thrown out, and it becomes strictly a business.

Margarito hasn't done anything to deserve a shot at the biggest name in the sport, and probably earn the biggest paycheck of his life. I know this kind of thing happens a lot in boxing (unfortunately), but add to the fact that he was caught cheating, got knocked out, then had his license denied for renewal... I don't know. It's just not right, regardless of the catch weight or belt or other issues.

[Left Hook Tua]

end of the day.. you cant defend that its for a vacant title at a catch weight in a weight class thats new to them.

the catchweight is bull****.

the people *****ing about them getting a shot for a vacant title are guys who don't know any better.

how many former/current welterweight champions get a title shot without ever fighting at that weight before?

how many lame bums get a shot for a vacant belt?

[Twako]

Which is why it's wrong. I think all boxing fans would love a sport based on actual rankings, with one champion per division, and the best fighting the best instead of the current ****show that is professional boxing. But if something is going to make money for a promoter, venue, television network, sanctioning body, and the fighters, then the "sport" aspect is thrown out, and it becomes strictly a business.

Margarito hasn't done anything to deserve a shot at the biggest name in the sport, and probably earn the biggest paycheck of his life. I know this kind of thing happens a lot in boxing (unfortunately), but add to the fact that he was caught cheating, got knocked out, then had his license denied for renewal... I don't know. It's just not right, regardless of the catch weight or belt or other issues.

hard to be idealistic in these times. sadly we cant bring back that one champion per division era. but we cant say it didnt do boxing anything good to have multiple organizations. commercially i think it did help, but the downside is having too many champs. lineal is the nearest you can hope for probably.

[jrosales13]

Neither deserves the belt. I wouldn't consider the winner as a champion. And, I would count it as Pac 8th title. But, I do think it is an entertaining fight.

[Left Hook Tua]

hard to be idealistic in these times. sadly we cant bring back that one champion per division era. but we cant say it didnt do boxing anything good to have multiple organizations. commercially i think it did help, but the downside is having too many champs. lineal is the nearest you can hope for probably.

blame tv networks.

they always want to call televised matches "championship" fights.

[rj_ct]

hard to be idealistic in these times. sadly we cant bring back that one champion per division era. but we cant say it didnt do boxing anything good to have multiple organizations. commercially i think it did help, but the downside is having too many champs. lineal is the nearest you can hope for probably.

How has it helped? I think the main reason mainstream sports media doesn't pay attention to boxing anymore (and casual sports fans as a result) is because it's an absolute mess.

Just because Arum, King, Greenburg, Sulaiman, Schaefer, and the like run the sport to their benefit doesn't mean the fans should accept it, or take the attitude of, "well, that's just the way things are. What are you gonna do?"

[Chups]

Well I think it's being a little shortsighted to assume people's problem with this fight is the catchweight.

It's a combination of several things.

1) Margarito is a cheater who should be banned for life
2) The title is vacant which is bull**** cause Pac would have never stepped to Martinez
3) It's clear that Bob Arum tells Pac who to fight and Pac just bends over and takes it
4) The catchweight simply just adds another reason not to like it

There is nothing about this fight that deserves anything but derision from true fans of the sport.

I approve this statement.

[pistol whip]

I would like an actual explination why the catch weight is a bad thing? If both fighters agree to it and can make the weight whats the problem?

Nobody ever said that title fights have to be held at the Maximum weigh in limit for a weight class so again whats the ***ing problem? It's not a rule guys!

[Twako]

How has it helped? I think the main reason mainstream sports media doesn't pay attention to boxing anymore (and casual sports fans as a result) is because it's an absolute mess.

Just because Arum, King, Greenburg, Sulaiman, Schaefer, and the like run the sport to their benefit doesn't mean the fans should accept it, or take the attitude of, "well, that's just the way things are. What are you gonna do?"

im not talkin bout the promoters, but the belt organizations.