reply thred I love how people change their stances, "boxing is a business"

[Story]

It certainly works both ways.

I got it in my head long ago that everyone is ******.

Good post

[MrRolltide91]

I've said this same thing many times on here. These guys, the top dogs of the sport, are all the same. The fact that Floyd is (much) more vocal about it, is what gets people so tilted. Anyone who thinks that Pacquiao isn't thinking 'money first' is kidding themselves.

agree. thats why manny wanted a 50/50 split, even though i don't think he deserves it.

[The Big Dunn]

if all fans are as ****** as you who will take whatever bull**** they try to shove in your ass then surely fighters will not fight for the fans. even if you say boxing is business still the fans should matter. in the first place what do businessmen do business for? to make money right? but how do you make money out of business? one word...customers...and when you say customers you have to satisfy them. in other words, businessmen do business to satisfy their customers in order to make money. once your customer are no longer satisfied your business will fall. as the saying goes "customer is always right. customers are the boss.
the same is true with boxing...if indeed fighters fight for business, they should fight to satisfy the boxing fans in order for them to make money. but if boxing fans are blind fanatics like you fighters will just ignore your satisfaction.
as a boxing fan though, i still wanna believe that boxing should first fight for pride and glory...business second.

When you are making $20 - $25 mil a fight it aint glory. There are really successful businesses with 50 employees that don't make that in a year. Its a whole new game nowadays.

I mean how do you explain glenn johnson and thomas adamek making less than JCC jr. and Saul Alvarez? Its not the boxing game we fell in love with anymore.

[brick wall]

This is where you aint being real. I mean about me as a poster. I call floyd on the BS when I think its BS. I mean I'm one of the few who thinks manny isn't on PED's.

alright then, it's just that for me you are overreacting sometimes. if somebody got you on ignore just let it go.

[brick wall]

When you are making $20 - $25 mil a fight it aint glory. There are really successful businesses with 50 employees that don't make that in a year. Its a whole new game nowadays.

I mean how do you explain glenn johnson and thomas adamek making less than JCC jr. and Saul Alvarez? Its not the boxing game we fell in love with anymore.

that's why i said i still want to believe they should fight for pride and glory because that's the scenario where we as boxing fans can get the best matchups. unfortunately that is not the situation anymore because we the boxing fans are allowing it to happen. a lot of fighters nowadays are too businessminded because they still got the support of the fans.

[The Big Dunn]

that's why i said i still want to believe they should fight for pride and glory because that's the scenario where we as boxing fans can get the best matchups. unfortunately that is not the situation anymore because we the boxing fans are allowing it to happen. a lot of fighters nowadays are too businessminded because they still got the support of the fans.

See I dont think it was this way before. I think the big fights were the only way to make big money. But that dynamic started to change when you saw ali spinks, leonard lalonde, holmes cooney. You could use other social factors to make one sided blowouts(on paper at least) into huge events.

I mean holmes cooney was his biggest grossing fight. Just goes to show you what Americans will pay money for.

[brick wall]

See I dont think it was this way before. I think the big fights were the only way to make big money. But that dynamic started to change when you saw ali spinks, leonard lalonde, holmes cooney. You could use other social factors to make one sided blowouts(on paper at least) into huge events.

I mean holmes cooney was his biggest grossing fight. Just goes to show you what Americans will pay money for.

oh yeah fighters before face more risks inside the ring. they fight more rounds, they wear smaller gloves and they fight more often within a year but they are not as demanding as today's fighters. boxing for sure has evolve for the worse...and so are boxing fans. it's just unfortunate to see a poster saying fighters should not fight for the fans.

[The Big Dunn]

oh yeah fighters before face more risks inside the ring. they fight more rounds, they wear smaller gloves and they fight more often within a year but they are not as demanding as today's fighters. boxing for sure has evolve for the worse...and so are boxing fans. it's just unfortunate to see a poster saying fighters should not fight for the fans.

But they can't they have to fight as if its their job or else they wont be able to do their job. Their is no glory in being Meldrick Taylor or Joe Frazier or Ali. You may disagree but these are just a few examples of what this sport does to you.

When its over its over. These are not usually college educted men or even men who have gone to trade school. they have been fighting all their lives with little or no education to fall back on. They got families to feed, bills, mortgage.

[brick wall]

But they can't they have to fight as if its their job or else they wont be able to do their job. Their is no glory in being Meldrick Taylor or Joe Frazier or Ali. You may disagree but these are just a few examples of what this sport does to you.

When its over its over. These are not usually college educted men or even men who have gone to trade school. they have been fighting all their lives with little or no education to fall back on. They got families to feed, bills, mortgage.

you know i'm not really saying that they should fight to punish themselves just so boxing fans can get entertained or something like that. but let's face it boxing is a brutal sports. beating up your opponent is the name the game. even non-fighters can get the parkinson's disease so what more if you're a fighter? it is what it is but it doesn't mean that these fighters should totally avoid the risks of fighting because risks is part of the sports. you don't want risks play chess or billiards maybe...but then you never get the kind of money that fighters get.

[Jack Napier]

Chingas has me on ignore so i gotta go here. he is right. Can't fault Manny for taking big payday. But Chingas and all Pac fans should **** on him for taking big money instead of biggest challenge because you all **** onfloyd when he does it.

why is Tony fighting Pac?
because Floyd wasn't interested
blame Floyd