Emmanuel Steward: "Freddie Roach needs to be TRAINER, not a PROMOTER"

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  • Russian Crushin
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    #31
    Originally posted by Medved
    Dude thats not what selling out means. Roach trains anyone with money or can bring in money, dude trains circus acts and all he cares about in recent years is about the limelight and being in the media and having a bunch of tv interviews and da $$$. While Steward selects his fighters carefully and grooms them to his style like a fine racehorse. Roach doesnt even bring anyone up from the lower ranks to top, its the top fighters who go to him.
    Thats not selling out?

    "Selling out" refers to the compromising of one's integrity, morality and principles in exchange for money

    ^^^exactly what Steward did.

    And yes Steward did that in the beginning of his career but now he just takes in the big fighters, maybe Wlad and Cotto come to mind

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      #32
      Originally posted by SuckaPunch
      Emanuel Steward Rips Manny Pacquiao’s Trainer Freddie Roach
      Thursday, August 26, 2010





      http://www.nowboxing.com/2010/08/ema...e-roach/12657/
      to be fair to roach.... pac would beat cotto even with steward in his corner. yeah, cotto might go 12 rounds this time, but pac would still win.

      I didn't really see that much improvement in cotto against foreman. foreman was an easy fight for him. but to be fair to steward, I think he needs more fights with cotto to really get some improvement.

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      • Chuckguy
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        #33
        Originally posted by yevskiy426
        Thats not selling out?

        "Selling out" refers to the compromising of one's integrity, morality and principles in exchange for money

        ^^^exactly what Steward did.

        And yes Steward did that in the beginning of his career but now he just takes in the big fighters, maybe Wlad and Cotto come to mind
        true
        but you still havent answered the question of who has Roach brought up from the begining til his down fall

        can you name one?

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          #34
          maybe steward is bitter because he used to be the guy everyone wanted in the corner. he used to be the flavor of the month trainer, getting all the paydays.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Chuckguy
            true
            but you still havent answered the question of who has Roach brought up from the begining til his down fall

            can you name one?
            Ok you pretty much got me there because i dont really know roach's early history but why does that matter? Fighters come to Roach and succeed under him.

            The top fighters are flocking to him for a reason

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              #36
              Originally posted by retnuocllup
              maybe steward is bitter because he used to be the guy everyone wanted in the corner. he used to be the flavor of the month trainer, getting all the paydays.
              Steward's resume speaks for itself and he has done more for the sport than sorry ass Freddie Roach could ever hope to do.

              That being said he has become a mercenary trainer himself, but not because he always wanted to. The combination of his early success and the lack of talented fighters coming out of Detroit really left him no choice in his career path.

              You never catch Steward saying the kind of nonsense that Freddie does, when he gives a predication it is always matter of fact and supported by some kind of evidence.

              I can say though, that Steward has gotten to the point where his schedule is so packed with HBO engagements and requirements to be in camps for championship fights that he neglects the current crop of solid young fighters coming out of Detroit.

              J'Leon Love and Dominique Dolton are two young guys who excelled as amateurs under the Kronk banner but they have been largely neglected as pros. I believe that Love actually left Kronk to move to New York and I think Dolton is on the verge of a similar move as he feels like he isn't being properly managed.

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                #37
                Didnt Benavidez and F.Gomez start with Roach?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by yevskiy426
                  Look up the words opinions and perspectives.
                  Your hero roach is a prime integrity violator.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                    Your hero roach is a prime integrity violator.
                    haha...."peeleft:

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Hitman932
                      [Steward]has become a mercenary trainer himself
                      yep, so I dunno why Steward is attacking Roach about paydays

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