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  • Parodius
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    #31
    Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
    I didnt see a close fight, I seen close RD's, and they were the ones I gave to Hopkins, to even consider this fight a robbery is a ****ing joke, I cant belive people were actually saying he won, what a joke, I'am sorry, I really did expect to see Taylor hanging on to life in the last RD's by some posters admissions, but now you guys just plain out look foolish, even nuthuggerish, if the word even exsists.
    Good post I wanted to hear from some guys that didn't see the fight. I've watched the fight 3 times already, I give Taylor 7 rounds, I give Hopkins 3 rounds & the other 2 rounds was 10-10 in my eyes. Taylor clearly won the fight, I've been saying this for a week & it really surprises me that some blind nut-huggers seeing Hopkins winning the fight. This was not a hard fight to score. I believe you have to be blind to have Hopkins winning the fight.

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    • masterdirector
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      #32
      115-113 Hopkins:


      Round # Score
      1 10-9 Taylor
      2 10-9 Taylor
      3 10-9 Taylor
      4 10-9 Hopkins
      5 10-9 Hopkins
      6 10-9 Taylor
      7 10-9 Hopkins
      8 10-9 Taylor
      9 10-9 Hopkins
      10 10-9 Hopkins
      11 10-9 Hopkins
      12 10-9 Hopkins

      115-113 Hopkins



      Thats the exact scorecard I had. 4th is the only one that was hard for me to score. It could've been for Taylor, so I could see a draw at best.
      Last edited by masterdirector; 07-23-2005, 10:48 PM.

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      • Torino
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        #33
        I had It 115-113 Hopkins

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        • IwatchBoxing
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          #34
          Originally posted by Parodius
          Good post I wanted to hear from some guys that didn't see the fight. I've watched the fight 3 times already, I give Taylor 7 rounds, I give Hopkins 3 rounds & the other 2 rounds was 10-10 in my eyes. Taylor clearly won the fight, I've been saying this for a week & it really surprises me that some blind nut-huggers seeing Hopkins winning the fight. This was not a hard fight to score. I believe you have to be blind to have Hopkins winning the fight.
          I just wish one of them would do a round by round (like in this thread, that I did)....just for a good laugh.

          It'll go like this " Hopkins dances around with his almighty gloves of steel, than empowers his will on the inferroior Taylor, to his death!"

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          • Dirt E Gomez
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            #35
            Look at oldgringo's thread, he has a decent layout of the bigger events and general comments of the fight. He's not a "nuthugger" by any means, nor is he a hater. It's a good analysis even if I don't completely agree with it.

            To help you out:
            Originally posted by oldgringo
            I just recently watched Hopkins Taylor (last night and this morning in fact) and I want to voice my opinion on it now that I've actually seen the fight. I know there are already a million threads about it but you can eat me if you don't like it, i've been here for a year dammit.

            I scored the fight like this:

            Round 1 - Taylor
            Round 2 - Taylor
            Round 3 - Hopkins
            Round 4 - Taylor
            Round 5 - Hopkins
            Round 6 - Taylor
            Round 7 - Taylor
            Round 8 - Taylor
            Round 9 - Hopkins
            Round 10 - Hopkins
            Round 11 - Hopkins
            Round 12 - Hopkins

            I had it 114-114, a draw. It was just like everyone said, Taylors aggressiveness gained him the majority of the early rounds, and Hopkins mastery of the sport swept him the championship rounds.

            A few things I noticed:

            I gave round 3 to B-Hop because of CLEAN punching and excellent defense. As aggressive as Taylor was in the round...he landed nothing of note except for a couple of good jabs. Nard landed a good left counter at about 1:45, a good right hand lead at :50, a good hook in the last few seconds...all were clean. Hopkins was controlling the pace in the first half of the round, Taylor was dictating late in the round. Close round to Hopkins though for the defense and clean shots.

            Hopkins landed a little right hand and a left hook in the fifth round early on...at about 2:30. Taylor got back at him right after the cut by rushing him and scoring maybe once in that flurry...but it looked pretty. Hopkins immediately came back with the left hook which hit the top of Taylors head...and he caught him with a big right hand at about 1:03. Taylor really didn't do much in round apart for the left hook at the end of the round which didn't completely land flush and the flurry after the cut. Round 5 for Hopkins for clean punches, defense, and for good movement that set up Taylor for clean power shots.

            I don't have much to say about Taylors work because he never really did anything spectacular for me in the fight. He outworked Hopkins and did a good job of pressing him early. His flurries to the body were working for him, and they looked good. I was impressed with his hand speed when flurrying, but he threw a LOT of sloppy punches. His combination in round 6 at :38 seconds was a good example of what he should have been doing more of. Round 2 was also a very good round for Jermain.

            Overall it was Hopkins who did more damage, but Taylor did his thing early and did what he was supposed to. The closet rounds that I saw were rounds 3 and 7. I thought Taylor won 7 for the extra work he put in and Hopkins took 3 for the reasons I explained above.

            I thought Hopkins legitimately hurt Taylor with that huge right hand in round 10 (Taylor held on for dear life and Nady actually had to rip Taylor off of Hop), and he stunned him a little in the 11th and 12th. Hopkins was the only one landing any significant shots.

            In conclusion, I don't get why everyone was thinking that Hopkins fought so incredibly dirty or anything because he brought the fight that he ALWAYS brings to the table. Taylor was doing plenty of holding himself. I think Taylor also did a lot to make Hopkins look dirtier like constantly turning away from him. It was a good fight overall and I don't have much of a problem with the decision. I think it was a bonafide draw but I can see how you could score it 115-113 Taylor or even 115-113 Hopkins. The biggest idiots were Jerry Roth for 116-112 Hop (honestly that's crazy) and Duane Ford for scoring the 12th round to Taylor.

            I look forward to the rematch and think Hopkins will win a convincing but close fight. Much respect to Jermain for beating an all-time great like Hop. Sorry this post was so long.

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            • Pac Man Fan 83
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              #36
              1 - Taylor (10-9)
              2 - Taylor (20-18)
              3 - Taylor (30-27)
              4 - Taylor (40-36)
              5 - Hopkins (46-49)
              6 - Taylor (59-55)
              7 - Taylor (69-64)
              8 - Taylor (79-73)
              9 - Hopkins (83-88)
              10 - Hopkins (93-97)
              11 - Hopkins (103-106)
              12 - Hopkins (113-115)

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              • mic573
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                #37
                My latest scorecard. Nothing really changed expect with the fourth being even.

                9-10 Taylor
                9-10 Taylor
                10-9 Hopkins
                10-10 Even
                10-9 Hopkins
                9-10 Taylor
                10-9 Hopkins
                9-10 Taylor
                10-9 Hopkins
                10-9 Hopkins
                10-9 Hopkins
                10-9 Hopkins

                116-113 Hopkins

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                • Parodius
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
                  I just wish one of them would do a round by round (like in this thread, that I did)....just for a good laugh.

                  It'll go like this " Hopkins dances around with his almighty gloves of steel, than empowers his will on the inferroior Taylor, to his death!"
                  Yea, he runs like a bunny & stings like a bee.

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                  • Manny_P
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                    #39
                    it's jest weird to give sumone the fight who jest runs like a bunny and dint press the action. Besides, if we're talking effective aggression, ring genrealship, Tayler got that shyt locked. Im seriously tired of the crying from Hopkins' fanbois. Jest drop it. Tayler won plain and simple. Don't try to revive the dead ya dig?

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                    • Dirt E Gomez
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                      #40
                      I honestly don't get it... I'm completely ok with people having a contrarian standpoint to mine, but I want facts or at least an opinion with some sort of semi-factual base. If you want to same X round was close and since I like Taylor, I'll give it to him, that's fine by me. But to say Taylor's aggression was effective is crazy. You can't throw that many punches and miss that consistantly and still be considered effective. It's the ****ing definition of not effective.

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