has anyones damage resistance improved as much as pacquiao?

[Kimo]

I swear man I'm getting so sick and tired of these ******s spewing dirt all over the internet as if they know ANYTHING about Manny's boxing or the human body in general.

First of all, not any of these ******s here have proof that the man is juicing. And if you use the Mayweather drama to conclude that he is, I suggest you join the special kids back to school. Cos you have a thing or 2 to learn about arguments and validity.

Secondly, how the hell can that explain his boxing success? YOU CANNOT CREATE A CHIN. LETS IMPRINT THAT IN YOUR ****** ASS HEADS. You coulda made Khan look like the Governator in his fight against Prescott he woulda gone DOWN because it's a god given ability. It can only be changed so much by natueral growth and development. (of course weight etc. affects it)

Pacman has been in numerous wars where he takes huge amounts of punishment. It has only wobbled him a little bit at most.

Which brings me to another side note, those idiotic Mayweather fans that claim he's gonna knock him out. Man.....if you HONESTLY believe that those potshots that he executes nowadays are gonna knock Manny out you are DELUSIONAL. He will need to get down to business.....like maybe a MARQUEZ has done in the past.

Which is one of the favourite arguments that these idiots use. Except it's not comparable because Marquez engages in vicious exchanges, while using his countering skills. Mayweather hasn't fought as daring as Marquez in years, if ever in his career. (a little off topic but needed to get this off my chest) He ALWAYS plays it safe, to knock Manny out he needs to start throwing combo's, which is playing with fire, smth he hasn't heard of.

So stfu and use your head before you let your hands go on the keyboard thinking you will lay down the damn truth regarding THE biggest fighter in boxing atm.

It really is time these topics stop coming, the amount of ******ity here makes me lose faith in the human race. Seriously.

And I'm sure that real passionate boxing fans would agree. You fall under this category if:
- you're not a mindless Mayweather fan that keeps talking about steroids
- you're not a mindless Pacman fan that has given up any way of critical thinking
- you actually just want to see a good fight, and can accept that the best man will win


edit: DUDE he looked slower in the Marquez fight because Marquez could cope with his speed after a while, the other fighters you mentioned weren't even CLOSE!

[Alibata]

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naw real cheaters like resto and margo not imaginary

come on man you know your holding out.. Come on let your imagination speak...ppppppaaaaccccc.. let it out.

[Alibata]

If yall would just take an extra step and think of the obvius reason, there would be less stress on you as it seems that Pac seeming so much stronger is such a problem for u.

Did u even consider the fact that 10 years ago, Pac was a less disciplined skinny ass malnutrioned, poorly trained, less skilled fighter than he is that he is under the guidance of Roach?

The key difference of him 10 years ago and now is...........proper mental and physical preparation.

Was that so hard to think of?

*****s got some of the wildest imaginations. Obvious reality is too simple for them.

[Alibata]

Ok how about when he fought Marquez and Marquez rocked him numerous times in both fights?He made alot of money before he fought Marquez fighting on HBO and then later fighting Barrera.You also have to consider that American currency is worth way more then Filipino currency.so if you make 100,000 your like a millionaire in Philippines with that money.


I also noticed he looked alot slower in the Marquez fight then he did in the Cotto,Hatton, and Delahoya fight.


I noticed in those fights that Manny looked alot faster in those fights then i ever seen him.How do you keep moving up in weight be in alot of wars enter your thirties and become faster?

Looks su****ious to me.

You have selective perception. Being a Floyd fan and Manny hater has clearly messed with you.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Who punches harder Estaban DeJesus a LW or Marvin Hagler a MW?

Can any of you bafoons answer that question?

manny was in his teens when those losses happened. not only that but also living in poverty not getting the proper nutrition, proper training. on top of that he was living in a third world country. so imagine those conditions starting a professional boxing career at 16 years of age. that is pre pubescent.

do you know what that means? can you imagine being a professional fighter before you hit puberty? its quite understandable as you get older & go through puberty that you get stronger. would you say you are stronger more developed man in your late to early 30s than you were when you were a teen ager? especially a professional boxer who is now getting proper nutrition & training advice?



rocked badly is overstating it. he was stunned. rocked badly is hanging on for dear life about to get knocked out. manny was never in that predicament vs marquez. that stunned counter left hook that marquez hit him with stunned manny. but he was still standing. there's video of this you know. he even smiled about it. he was far from being "rocked badly."

as for the cotto uppercuts, those shots didnt have full leverage, & manny admitted in interviews after the fight that those shots did hurt but he wanted to give cotto the illusion that they didnt so to show the illusion that he was not being hurt & win the psychological war in the ring vs cotto. once cotto thought that he couldnt hurt manny he lost the only remaining advantage & confidence he had left.

one only needs to see how manny looked after the cotto fight. he was busted up. to say he came out unscathed is just being dishonest & just trying to spin a false agenda home.

its quite simple & we really dont even have to go back to boxing history to figure this out. its human male development 101. according to the thread starter manny getting stronger as he gets older is su****ious.

just ask yoursefl this question guys,

are you stronger now as a grown man or as a pre pubescent teen?


Im 35 years old & im somewhat in shape. I was in better shape when i was in my teens but im still a stronger man now than i was in my teens.

now imagine a professional boxer who started boxing at 16 years old, going through puberty, getting better nutrition, training & just overall living conditions. stands to reason that he would be stronger now than he was back when he was a teen living in abject poverty in a thirld world country.

as for the punch resistance, look at manny's face after the cotto fight. he was roughed up. look at his fight vs clottey where clottey barely landed. he was bruised up. there's nothing abnormal going on if you use normal logical intelligent analysis.

henry armstrong got knocked out at 122 how the hell did he go the distance with sugar ray robinson at 147? muhammad ali was nearly knocked out by 185 pound henry cooper how did he take george foreman's punches? looks like i found a couple more cheaters.

Cotto probably, I don't remember a time when Manny had been dropped with a head shot at 130-135 and below I mean it makes sense that he's fighting slower guys and he can see where the punches are coming from. It's also feasible that he's learnt to roll with punches more and position himself so that the majority of punches he's hit with have most of their sting taken out of them because they're off balance.

Cotto at 140 was dropped by lesser punchers than Judah, Mosley, Margarito and he steps up in weight and proves he can take a beating and not get stopped and was only knocked down against Pacquiao (I don't consider the Knee's he took against Margarito to be legit KD's in that it was the punch that cause him to go down)

Haye has also improved, he was dropped by an old Thompson, Mormeck and Mock but fighting much heavier guys where he was hit a little (not a lot) but didn't seem hurt at all against Ruiz and Valuev obviously they hit harder than Mock, Thompson and Mormeck.

People are so short sighted, it's like Pacquiao is the only fighter who's punch resistance has improved ever. Go back in time again and you'll see Henry Armstrong who was KO'd in his first fight and went 100's of fights before suffering another knockout to Fritzie Zivic many years later.

LOL

Duran was knocked down twice by Dejesus, yet took huge shots from Hagler and Barkley.

Being young, wild and reckless gets u hurt. Becoming better technically, stronger and knowing how to brace urself for the punch comes with experience.

Ali was also knocked down by Jones and Cooper, yet took shots from Foreman and Shavers.

Billy Conn got TKO'd at 139 then later in his career went on to face Joe Loius who was 200 lbs. He lasted 13 rounds in their first fight, how in the hell did he do that?

Most fight fans have to look no futher than Cotto...

Cotto was getting rocked at 140, then the jump to 147, and his chin improved some what.

Folks act like an increase in size doesn't help. Or coming in at a better weight for your body. Not to mention, Pac saw the uppercut of Cotto's coming (he stood there and waited on it). Look no further than Mayorga to show you that if you see it coming, it may not have that great of an effect. Unless you are Tito of course, and we know he had monster power.

An increase in size helps. Also, please don't try and make it seem as if Cotto was just landing bomb after bomb on Manny...He wasn't!

This is how Pacquiao looked during his 2 KO losses.

[infamous larryx]

why do recycled threads like this get so many responses..yet real boxing related threads get ignored??

[MayMafia]

LMAO @ people really trying to rationalize and explain physiology and proper nutrition to all these ****** *****sexuals....

These are the same GED drop out, purse snatching, tight jeans wearing morons that dont even know how many years in a decade....

Its funny, thats all...

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[p4p-champ]

Floyd used to get schooled by the likes of Martin Castillo in the amateurs. Anybody can improve.

obviously...but how exactly do you improve punch resistance?

[HandSpeed303]

obviously...but how exactly do you improve punch resistance?

I don't know...Why don't you tell us.