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  • Mikhnienko
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    #11
    Originally posted by Kaspa9t9
    Your basing that on what? His CW chin where he used to train for 6-7 months to make weight?
    He was dropped and hurt (as Haye admitted) vs a shot Barret.

    Originally posted by RazorBlade
    Ruiz and Valuev are far better wins than Arreola, Grant and Golota. Estrada is really the most impressive out of the wins for Adamek.
    no, no they're not. Names alone Adamek's is better but you also have to consider the versions they fought and how they fought them.

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    • Kaspa9t9
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      #12
      Originally posted by Mikhnienko
      He was dropped and hurt (as Haye admitted) vs a shot Barret.
      Dropped and hurt? Oh dear... Whatever floats your boat mate.

      And give me a link where he admits this.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Mikhnienko
        He has a good offensive arsenal imo, not against Grant or a 6'6+ SHW because his Right hand upstairs becomes ineffective but anyone around his size for sure. Good jab, right cross, left hook, very good body puncher and throws in combination (something Haye doesn't do after round 2)
        I dont give Adamak a shot for a couple of reasons against the Klits....they are too tall and the reaching he did against Grant took away alot of power and he was hurt on several occasions.

        But against Haye i would give him pretty much a 50-50 shot but would still lean in Hayes favor

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          #14
          Originally posted by Mikhnienko
          He was dropped and hurt (as Haye admitted) vs a shot Barret.
          That was a clear rabbit punch. And its not like Barrett can't punch. He's just not very good. Fortunately for him, Haye is a jab magnet so he got a few good shots in there. But that "knockdown" was definitely an illegal punch. If I remember correctly, they didn't even call it a KD.

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            #15
            Haye's speed and athleticism makes it seem like he's more skillful but he's not all that much better than Adamek, who is a technically sound himself.

            As far as resume goes, depends who you think is a better win, Arreola or Valuev.

            I'd personally would rather have Arreola on my resume, tbh.

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              #16
              Originally posted by RazorBlade
              Ruiz and Valuev are far better wins than Arreola, Grant and Golota. Estrada is really the most impressive out of the wins for Adamek.
              On paper yea, but take in account what version Haye fought them in and Adamaks resume is better

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                #17
                Originally posted by yevskiy426
                On paper yea, but take in account what version Haye fought them in and Adamaks resume is better
                Wasn't Golota prime in mid 90's?

                Wasn't Grant prime late 90's?

                I like Adamek too, but just showing that there's no basis to your arguement.

                And I don't think too many people would disagree that Haye would beat Arreola.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BoxerDood
                  That was a clear rabbit punch. And its not like Barrett can't punch. He's just not very good. Fortunately for him, Haye is a jab magnet so he got a few good shots in there. But that "knockdown" was definitely an illegal punch. If I remember correctly, they didn't even call it a KD.
                  no it was a legit punch then barret hit him while he was down and the ref forgot about the knockdown and gave barret a point deduction. the same thing happened earlier when haye hit barret when he was down but no point deduction weird!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Kaspa9t9
                    Dropped and hurt? Oh dear... Whatever floats your boat mate.

                    And give me a link where he admits this.
                    in the post fight interview in the ring.

                    Originally posted by yevskiy426
                    I dont give Adamak a shot for a couple of reasons against the Klits....they are too tall and the reaching he did against Grant took away alot of power and he was hurt on several occasions.

                    But against Haye i would give him pretty much a 50-50 shot but would still lean in Hayes favor
                    Against the Klychko's god no. He gets murdered.

                    Originally posted by BoxerDood
                    That was a clear rabbit punch. And its not like Barrett can't punch. He's just not very good. Fortunately for him, Haye is a jab magnet so he got a few good shots in there. But that "knockdown" was definitely an illegal punch. If I remember correctly, they didn't even call it a KD.
                    No it wasn't ruled a KD, thats why they asked him if he was hurt by it in the post fight and he said he was KD legit and hurt.

                    Haye shouldn't complain about anyone fighting dirty. He probably landed 40 rabbit punches vs Ruiz with the ref not doing a damn thing. That was one of the dirtiest displays i can think of in recent years.
                    Originally posted by Kaspa9t9
                    Wasn't Golota prime in mid 90's?

                    Wasn't Grant prime late 90's?

                    I like Adamek too, but just showing that there's no basis to your arguement.

                    And I don't think too many people would disagree that Haye would beat Arreola.
                    Prime Estrada and Arreola > Prime Bonin.

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                    • Kaspa9t9
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                      in the post fight interview in the ring.
                      Just No. They didn't even mention the slip in the post fight interview, they just had a interview with Haye and Vitali by ring side and were talking about a possible match up.

                      I hate it when people use made up BS to back up their arguements.

                      And also how BoxingScene saw it.

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                      last stanza.

                      Dropped and hurt... yea right...

                      Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                      Prime Estrada and Arreola > Prime Bonin.
                      Read the title, "Adamek>Haye in skill and resume at HW"
                      Last edited by Kaspa9t9; 08-22-2010, 12:57 AM.

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