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  • #11
    Oscar De La Hoya has taken 20+ rounds of damage from steroid abusers between Mosley and Vargas, and he is still healthy. Now imagine if those rounds were with loaded gloves. He would have been seriously hurt.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by yesir View Post
      both are equally bad. cheating is cheating.
      I agree with this statement right here. I also agree that some people can use roids and look like **** but IMO those are the guys that don't know what they are doing.

      Guys like Conte were guru's in helping athletes get the most out of there PED and Steroid use. I think a guy like Vargas was a lazy @ss during the latter part of his career, and no amount of Roids would have helped him anyways. This is just my opinion though

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      • #13
        Originally posted by BoxerDood View Post
        Oscar De La Hoya has taken 20+ rounds of damage from steroid abusers between Mosley and Vargas, and he is still healthy. Now imagine if those rounds were with loaded gloves. He would have been seriously hurt.
        look at gerald mcclellan vs nigel benn (STEROIDS)




        now name me a fight that has used loaded gloves?

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        • #14
          they both suck. pacquiao and margo are cheaters but i voted that gloves are worse.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by southcentralcar View Post
            they both suck. pacquiao and margo are cheaters but i voted that gloves are worse.
            show the proof for manny. id give you all my pts right now if you prove it

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            • #16
              Loaded gloves are more dangerous. Without question. By taking steroids you are putting yourself in danger, sure it improves performence but it won't cause the kind of damage to your opponent that loaded gloves will.

              BoxerDood made a great point about Oscar De La Hoya. He fought Mosley and Vargas who were both on steroids and De La Hoya looked very good in both fights. Who knows how often Mosley took steroids but he looked worse in the 2nd fight (when he tested positive) than the first fight (when he tested clean). Oscar performed very well in both of those fights. And even though he officially lost the 2nd Mosley fight it didnt effect him or his body. Oscar might have fought another steroid abuser in Pacquiao and he got hurt in the fight but he's not damaged. You can see in press conferences that he still looks well and talks well also.

              He still had that great performence against Mayorga and a good showing in defeat to Mayweather. Compare that with two guys that Margarito beat and proberbly loaded his gloves against. Kermit Cintron and Miguel Cotto. Their career's have basically been ruined due to the severe damage that they took in their fights from Margarito. Someone might say "Cotto is still a champion" but mentally and physically he isnt the same and never will be.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs View Post
                show the proof for manny. id give you all my pts right now if you prove it
                ''yawn'' lets be honest if he had nothing to hide pac would love to show everyone that mayweather was wrong for accusing him of using peds. but i feel like this whole controversy scared pac and he stopped juicing for a while cuz in the clottey fight he was'nt too impressive just that clottey was half dead and didnt fight back.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by southcentralcar View Post
                  ''yawn'' lets be honest if he had nothing to hide pac would love to show everyone that mayweather was wrong for accusing him of using peds. but i feel like this whole controversy scared pac and he stopped juicing for a while cuz in the clottey fight he was'nt too impressive just that clottey was half dead and didnt fight back.
                  oh just becuz floyd sr said it IT HAS TO BE TRUE?




                  if he said manny was born a girl and got a sex change you would beleive it. thats how gullable u are

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs View Post
                    oh just becuz floyd sr said it IT HAS TO BE TRUE?




                    if he said manny was born a girl and got a sex change you would beleive it. thats how gullable u are
                    Come on G-Dog. Pacquiao's actions are highly suspiscious. Of course people can't prove he's on enhancement drugs but there's also no reason to believe he isnt. But like I said there are several things that indicate that he is. One thing is that his trainer has a history of steroids.

                    This is a pointless argument though. As we will never know what Pacquiao is on because he will never agree to take a random blood test.

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                    • #20
                      Loaded gloves.

                      How many boxers have died because their opponent used PEDs like EPO or had their career ended because of drugs like EPO?

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