So I trained at my boxing gym. This is what my trainer told me

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  • shadeyfizzle
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    #31
    Originally posted by kyshenko team
    lol you are beginner and already sparring. that is why i never fkn train while im in US. and trust me.. you won't ever have a pro fight.. unless you don't care having a brain damage during your trainings. don't get me wrong though.

    when i came to the gym in US, 1st what the coach asked, if i want to fight on Friday night, sorry for my russian language but i told him to **** himself and let him know, that i never trained before, even though the year before in 08 i took gold in World Championship. My point is.. is useless to enforce beginners sparr against more skilled guys in the gym.

    most of the people that start training in my gym dont have blood on their face for 1-2 years for sure.

    good luck with your trainigns, though
    I seriously disagree with that. You dont train with guys that dont know what they're doing because you wont learn anything that way. You should always seek to spar with a more skilled opponent. The only way sparring with a more skilled opponent becomes useless is if they always go for the knockout...which then defeats the purpose of sparring at all.

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    • killacash
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      #32
      Originally posted by kyshenko team
      Enrike Gogohiya, team Captain-)

      i posted few of my fights awhile ago to mangler. only few people know me on this forum. i rarely post
      Thanks. Looking at the majority of the bull**** posted its understandable why people rarely post. Anyway I can get some of your fights?
      Last edited by killacash; 08-21-2010, 12:03 AM.

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      • Ogecca MaMa
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        #33
        Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
        I seriously disagree with that. You dont train with guys that dont know what they're doing because you wont learn anything that way. You should always seek to spar with a more skilled opponent. The only way sparring with a more skilled opponent becomes useless is if they always go for the knockout...which then defeats the purpose of sparring at all.
        beginners train with beginners, pros getting ready for tournaments(championships) with other pros. for this case you have Trainer for beginners.. that tells them what to do etc, and main coach for professionals. i can't imagine myself or any1 else sparring with professional at their 1st day/month/year. may be in boxing.. . thai-box though, little bit different.

        but I respect your opinion, every1 rolls the way they prefer.

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        • BoxerDood
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          #34
          Yeah, it takes LOTS of practice to master the Philly shell defense. It takes a lot of timing to calculate every punch and keep your hand in a position where you aren't leaving something open.. One bad move and you're pretty much opening yourself for flush body shots, and if those don't make you fold, they'll at least make you drop your hands so they can go upstairs and finish you off.

          But as your trainer said, the first thing you want to do is get into shape. That'll help with your overall speed, power, reflexes, etc. You gotta make sure they're top notch to reach your full potential. As for the knockout loss, stuff like that happens all the time. I almost did a Cannonball Cintron out of the ring after taking a combination when I first started boxing lol But how you learn from it is what's important. I guarantee that if you ever try the Philly shell again, you won't leave your ribs open because of that experience lol

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          • shadeyfizzle
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            #35
            Originally posted by kyshenko team
            beginners train with beginners, pros getting ready for tournaments(championships) with other pros. for this case you have Trainer for beginners.. that tells them what to do etc, and main coach for professionals. i can't imagine myself or any1 else sparring with professional at their 1st day/month/year. may be in boxing.. . thai-box though, little bit different.

            but I respect your opinion, every1 rolls the way they prefer.
            Well when you put it like that then I absolutely agree. I thought you were referring simply about skill level without factoring in experience. I do think however it's a good experience for beginners to spar with a much more experienced fighter who doesnt take advantage of the fact just so they can see the difference in conditioning and skill level and have a tangible goal to strive for.

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            • killacash
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              #36
              I found your Maui Thai fight which was a nice first round ko but I couldnt find any of your boxing fights.

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                #37
                Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                Well when you put it like that then I absolutely agree. I thought you were referring simply about skill level without factoring in experience. I do think however it's a good experience for beginners to spar with a much more experienced fighter who doesnt take advantage of the fact just so they can see the difference in conditioning and skill level and have a tangible goal to strive for.
                as long as its technical sparring, not survival)) 1 more example, in US sparring, basicly means fighting. back in soviet school we sparr 20% of power and 100% technick. this way i agree, beginners Shall sparr and learn something new for them. anyways, i just had a long flight to US yesterday and little bit tired. im out for tonight, have a good night man

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by kyshenko team
                  as long as its technical sparring, not survival)) 1 more example, in US sparring, basicly means fighting. back in soviet school we sparr 20% of power and 100% technick. this way i agree, beginners Shall sparr and learn something new for them. anyways, i just had a long flight to US yesterday and little bit tired. im out for tonight, have a good night man
                  Nice talking to you man. Good luck with your career.

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                  • Ogecca MaMa
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by killacash
                    I found your Maui Thai fight which was a nice first round ko but I couldnt find any of your boxing fights.
                    ah)) I rarely took part in boxing, back in amateurs we had few tournaments in boxing between boxers and thai-b. i doubt i have any boxing vids, may be at my father's house.. back when i was 12-13 )) wouldnt be interesting) Tomorrow though, i can find for you short team vids from 08 W.C.

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                    • killacash
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kyshenko team
                      ah)) I rarely took part in boxing, back in amateurs we had few tournaments in boxing between boxers and thai-b. i doubt i have any boxing vids, may be at my father's house.. back when i was 12-13 )) wouldnt be interesting) Tomorrow though, i can find for you short team vids from 08 W.C.
                      Appreciate it boss, and also good luck with your career as well.

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