a question about Alex Ariza ???

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bobby the beast

[dr.x]

bobby the beast

when did he start to work with bobby ?

[dr.x]

so apparently Ariza's methods don't make anyone into a great fighter like some people imply on this board.

Ariza has never turned any fighter into a superhuman before the year 2008 , until he worked with manny , whether it's by his "special training techniques " or by "doping" . and bobby pacquiao never fought after the year 2008 , so we did not have the chance to see the results and this makes your point invalid .