Im a HUGE Floyd fan (as you all know) but I am starting to question his heart....

[MindBat]

Please tell me that you're not aware that tests very near fight night is dangerous to the fighters. Really? You're not?

So isn't getting headbutted, cut, and bleeding not dangerous either?

Fighters bleed in fights more than than they would be asked to give up for blood testing.

Tell me you were not aware of that.

[crillz]

and how many of them are using the testing form in their fights?


None.

Makes their stance pretty invalid now doesn't it.


I'm not against better testing at all.

I'm against singling out one fighter and only that fighter which is what the Mayweathers have done. Now before you chime in with "they made Shane do it", well yea, obviously they have to or else it makes them look even worse.


But please, do tell, why aren't you and the rest of the boxing fans who are demanding testing for this one fight,

not demanding them in all other fights?





Because none of you simply care about the matter at all that much to truly make a stink about it.

They are not doing it but the point is they WOULD do it if they were him and being that they are also fighters I'd say yes their opinions are valid, those guys actually Box YOU and ME are just people who watch so again YES their opinions are valid..

The people, such as myself, who are asking Manny to take these tests are people who are thinking in fairness. it's okay for Manny to make demands that surpass commission regulations and it's not okay for Floyd? especially when he is doing the tests too?

honestly speaking Floyd Mayweather is only 1 guy in a sport where there are many individuals who command their own team/company/promotions therefore to each is own, what Mayweather wants for himself in his own fights can't be enforced in all fights unless the commission enforces it.

does that mean Floyd should fall back from his own su****ions and demands all because everyone else isn't doing it? NO, he is an individual who doesn't have to respond to NOBODY therefore he can make his own choices and his choice was for BOTH of them to give blood..

all you can say is why Manny? you know why? because Floyd decided that whoever he fights from now on in will have to do OST, Manny included and in order for the big fight we want to see happen go down he has to take them tests.

also because people don't just do the things Manny did everyday, it's so unusual in this glorious sport surpassing centuries that no one else ever did what he did. when you doing **** like that especially in the midst of all these steroids and EPO scandals it raises an eyebrow.

another VALID reason is also to eliminate the assumption that both fighters are clean and create the FACT that both fighters are clean..

[treason1]

I mean, he is out here being slandered and his name is being dragged through the mud.....

The same way that I feel about Cotto not wanting to fight Margs again, and not wanting to clear all doubts about whether or not Margs cheated against him..... This is the same way I am starting to feel about Floyd.....

I have his career dvd set, watched Floyd fights for hours upon hours, and have been a fan since the beginning.... HE is my favorite current fighter and one of my top three of all (Roy Jones Jr, Bernard Hopkins, and Floyd).....

I just can not fathom somebody talking about you, slandering you, totally undermining any and everything you have worked so hard to achieve in the sport, and you not doing anything about it.....

I dont know what to think about this.... Is he scared? Is he doubting himself? Is he really that complacent with where he has been and where he is in the sport?

The bad thing is, I think the later that he waits to fight Manny, the worse it is on Floyd himself.... He speed, reflexes, and timing will erode before Manny's speed and power erode....

I just dont know what to think of this entire Floyd vs Manny episode that is and has been happening for whats seems like forever.....

i dont mind that hes actually silent , when arum and most the boxing writers call him a sucker and a coward !!! because some of them have their own agenda , but i do have a problem with him ducking this fight !!!!

[crillz]

Please tell me that you're not aware that tests very near fight night is dangerous to the fighters. Really? You're not?

I personally don't think it would do anything to a fighter, and this is honestly here too. I say that because you got guys that fight twice a month, they give blood before those fights. also I haven't really heard of a fighter complaining to this extent about blood tests, it's a 1st for me really..

Here's what I want to ask you though, the testing is RANDOM therefore nobody knows when the testing will stop and continue, being that the testing is RANDOM how can you be so sure they will test Manny even 20 days before the fight?

they had Floyd's RANDOM testing demand in the Mosley fight and look in the end they didn't even test until 18 days away, why is it out of the question to think it will be any different with Manny?

[crillz]

does'nt matter if they knew or not , but the fact that they stopped testing 18 days before the fight is a clear reason tha the agency is full of crap!...why 18 dAYS?......WHY?

what do you mean that it doesn't matter if they knew or didn't know? it matters because had Mosley known ahead of time that he would have a FULL 18 day window period in which he wont be tested he has the mental security to inject some more of that **** Conte gave him in his ass but being that he DIDN'T know when they would test it prohibited him from ever having a green light to cheat because if he did cheat and they tested him he would be caught..

The fact that they even bothered to reveal when testing stopped after the fight is just extra information because at that point it didn't matter when they stopped testing, the fight was already over and they already went threw camp unaware of when the next test would be so it was useless information that now Pacquiao goons are trying to use to back up their ****ty arguments..

I'm still in awe that you could be so ignorant enough to type on your keyboard that "does'nt matter if they knew or not" when them NOT knowing is what makes the whole testing RANDOM

[Castor_Troy]

So isn't getting headbutted, cut, and bleeding not dangerous either?

Fighters bleed in fights more than than they would be asked to give up for blood testing.

Tell me you were not aware of that.

I personally don't think it would do anything to a fighter, and this is honestly here too. I say that because you got guys that fight twice a month, they give blood before those fights. also I haven't really heard of a fighter complaining to this extent about blood tests, it's a 1st for me really..

Here's what I want to ask you though, the testing is RANDOM therefore nobody knows when the testing will stop and continue, being that the testing is RANDOM how can you be so sure they will test Manny even 20 days before the fight?

they had Floyd's RANDOM testing demand in the Mosley fight and look in the end they didn't even test until 18 days away, why is it out of the question to think it will be any different with Manny?

It was stated by the officers of the commission that it is medically dangerous and not advisable at all. The commision had a conference on this

sorry i dont have the link but it is medically dangerous to do tests near a fight. To those who have that link pls enlightened us that one that has only Tygart supporting blood test.

[Castor_Troy]

since its medically dangerous. it is common knowledge that they will stop testing say 18 days before.


and what kind of peds would benefit a fighter if he can use it just 18 days prior?

Google experts stated that roids are for long haul of training. a couple of week to the fight is tapering off.

[crillz]

It was stated by the officers of the commission that . The commision had a conference on this

sorry i dont have the link but it is medically dangerous to do tests near a fight. To those who have that link pls enlightened us that one that has only Tygart supporting blood test.

medically dangerous?

okay, here's what I don't get, they are supposed to be commission officers, right? so why then instead of just saying vague and information-less lines like "it is medically dangerous and not advisable at all" why not actually break down into specifics what is dangerous about it?

I'm sure if they DID break that down you would have written what they said in your above post that I'm quoting so being that you didn't I assume they didn't, I know it's wrong to assume because you can make an ass out of yourself but am I wrong? did they give a thorough breakdown of it or just 1 line co signs like "it is medically dangerous and not advisable at all"?

[Castor_Troy]

medically dangerous?

okay, here's what I don't get, they are supposed to be commission officers, right? so why then instead of just saying vague and information-less lines like "it is medically dangerous and not advisable at all" why not actually break down into specifics what is dangerous about it?

I'm sure if they DID break that down you would have written what they said in your above post that I'm quoting so being that you didn't I assume they didn't, I know it's wrong to assume because you can make an ass out of yourself but am I wrong? did they give a thorough breakdown of it or just 1 line co signs like "it is medically dangerous and not advisable at all"?

They mentioned a specific illness that the fighters might suffer from. this is a fact and im sorry i dont have a link

Im backing off im not capable of finding that link at this moment.

[crillz]

since its medically dangerous. it is common knowledge that they will stop testing say 18 days before.


and what kind of peds would benefit a fighter if he can use it just 18 days prior?

Google experts stated that roids are for long haul of training. a couple of week to the fight is tapering off.

it would benefit him even 3 days before a fight, Victor Conte is a genius when it comes to EPO and PED usage, so much of a genius when it comes to that that he actually supplied the actual athlete some people spend all day talking about directly and even he said there are some PED's that can clean out of your system in as little as 24 hours..

They have all sorts of different drugs you can use that will clear out of your system, and you mean to tell me it's out of reach to think that Pacquiao, a man with so much money and popularity amongst fighters and fans altogether can't get a hold of those drugs and use them too?

Shane Mosley was caught cheating, but guess what? he wasn't caught cheating until years later after he already got away with it, too little too late and it wasn't even the commission that found out it was a court tape that got leaked of him admitting it so when it comes to the "commission's" testing proved invalid after all