Im a HUGE Floyd fan (as you all know) but I am starting to question his heart....

[Vasyl’s dad]

Don't come up with that video like that is saying something, that interview was conducted throughout the 1st negotiations, the negotiations in which Manny made Floyd budge from 0 to 14 and then tried yet again to make him budge from 14 to 24. Floyd did talk a lot in that video but keep in mind he tried to do his part in making the fight Pacquiao just kept counter offering with something he knew Floyd wasn't going to want to hear

There have been tons of other fights this year without OSTs.

Go cry about those since its so important.


But you, like everyone else, doesn't really give a **** about any tests.


You just want Floyd to have his way.

[crillz]

I don't care if Manny has called him out or not.

There isn't a single one of you that can explain why these extra tests are necessary in the first place. We're almost to November again. It was just last November when this whole mess started and suddenly, all Floyd stans became advocates of better testing in boxing because of what Floyds dad said.

But,

they only care about that testing for one particular fight.

Nobody, not you, not anyone else is carrying on about all of the other hundreds of fights we've had this year without extra testing.

You only want it for this one.

But you can't explain why.

the reason why is that because for 1 of the 2 combatants the testing is a deal breaker, meaning if the testing DOESN'T happen the way he says then there will be no fight. the reason why people are demanding that in this fight and not others is because testing isn't holding any other fights back..

Shane Mosley was cheating for who knows how long before they actually caught him, he cheated for De La Hoya at 154 so imagine against Mayorga at 160? it's highly possible many other "good prospects" and "HOF fighters" have used drugs too in Boxing but due to it's easily beatable testing method we can never know..

THAT is why testing is a good thing for Boxing, people demand it in this fight because quite frankly it's not an unreasonable request being that he will be tested too, whatever drawing blood can do to Manny can also be done to Floyd exceot Floyd isn't complaining about it. in light of Shane Mosley's video admitting he used PED's, Shane being one of our most loved fighters on here I think it's fair to assume that others with more stature and money than Mosley can be cheating too..

[cixthree]

well he's agreed to random testing up to 14 days of the fight. seems like floyd fans don't understand you can't use peds in a 14 day period. usada knows this that's why they cut off testing at 18 days. i thought the point was to prove pac wasn't on steroids? 14 day cutoff does that. it looks like floyd just wants to harass pac and test him right before the fight cause he knows that spooks him. this proves floyd doesn't care about cleaning up the sport or proving if pac is clean cause 14 days would prove that. vacation time!

well he's agreed to random testing up to 14 days of the fight Well that aint random is it... lol

[MindBat]

I don't care if Manny has called him out or not.

There isn't a single one of you that can explain why these extra tests are necessary in the first place. We're almost to November again. It was just last November when this whole mess started and suddenly, all Floyd stans became advocates of better testing in boxing because of what Floyds dad said.

But,

they only care about that testing for one particular fight.

Nobody, not you, not anyone else is carrying on about all of the other hundreds of fights we've had this year without extra testing.

You only want it for this one.

But you can't explain why.

You still haven't addressed Freddie's and Ariza's quotes.

But anyway here's why Floyd stuck to OST.

Because Arum in no way, shape, or form, ever, unequivically, on any occasion, BEFORE the start of negotiations stated that the NSAC tests were more than adequate to make the fight happen.

When asked if the NSAC could make changes to include blood testing. Tygart stated that it could be done, but that they could not guarantee it would happen by March 2010.

Instead, it was excuse, after excuse, after excuse, of why Manny was scared of needles to he could not give a little blood because drawing blood too close to the fight makes him queasy and weak.

Yet Manny has been cut and has bled in fights in the past and gave more blood in the corner than what would be required of him for testing.

The problem was and is the word "RANDOM". That's what's keeping the fight from happening.

[Castor_Troy]

well he's agreed to random testing up to 14 days of the fight Well that aint random is it... lol

Well its RANDOM ENOUGH that USADA Stopped testing 18 Days before the Floyd-Mosley fight

[crillz]

There have been tons of other fights this year without OSTs.

Go cry about those since its so important.


But you, like everyone else, doesn't really give a **** about any tests.


You just want Floyd to have his way.

I'm not going to pretend like I had the thought of more extensive testing prior to talks of this fight but in all fairness and neutrality I can honestly say it would be a great thing for Boxing..

I think that Floyd has valid reasons for requesting testing and Pacquiao's refusal solidifies it. now, Boxers from all over the place are coming out and asking the question: why would you refuse a 40 Million+ dollar fight over simple blood testing?

A fighters main goal is to make enough money out of Boxing to live good for the rest of their lives, here we have the BIGGEST fight ever and it doesn't happen because 1 of the fighters refused more thorough blood testing, that is absurd..

[Castor_Troy]

Why would someone demand an unprecedented "new" testing over 40M ?


If floyd didnt demand it we might already witnessed how Floyd schooled Pac

[Vasyl’s dad]

I'm not going to pretend like I had the thought of more extensive testing prior to talks of this fight but in all fairness and neutrality I can honestly say it would be a great thing for Boxing..

I think that Floyd has valid reasons for requesting testing and Pacquiao's refusal solidifies it. now, Boxers from all over the place are coming out and asking the question: why would you refuse a 40 Million+ dollar fight over simple blood testing?

A fighters main goal is to make enough money out of Boxing to live good for the rest of their lives, here we have the BIGGEST fight ever and it doesn't happen because 1 of the fighters refused more thorough blood testing, that is absurd..

and how many of them are using the testing form in their fights?


None.

Makes their stance pretty invalid now doesn't it.


I'm not against better testing at all.

I'm against singling out one fighter and only that fighter which is what the Mayweathers have done. Now before you chime in with "they made Shane do it", well yea, obviously they have to or else it makes them look even worse.


But please, do tell, why aren't you and the rest of the boxing fans who are demanding testing for this one fight,

not demanding them in all other fights?





Because none of you simply care about the matter at all that much to truly make a stink about it.

[baracuda]

the public question floyd's heart more than anything imo!.....so far,floyd has been justifying the public belief that he's COWARD!

[MindBat]

Well its RANDOM ENOUGH that USADA Stopped testing 18 Days before the Floyd-Mosley fight

So don't you think Manny should be happy that neither Floyd nor Shane made the decisions to stop testing 18 days before the fight? USADA was in control the whole time.

Manny (According to Arum) requested 14 days, and after learning they stopped 18 days before, he should've been on live TV grabbing his crotch and calling Floyd and Shane out and demanding random blood testing.
He asked for 14 days remember?

Now since USADA was in control of testing and not Floyd or Shane, they (USADA) had the power (were in control) to stop testing 20 days, 14 days,
10 days, 5 days, even 1 day before the fight.

The idea was, has been, and would be that nobody but USADA would know when testing would stop.

Isn't that brilliant? That's why random OS drug testing has been known to be more effective than testing with cut-off dates.