are pacquiao fans scared of marquez?????

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Juan Manuel Marquez went down 4 times in 2 fights, right, but he dominated 18 rounds out of 24, AND THAT'S WHAT COUNTS.

Nobody cares anymore about the judges scores: in the hearts and minds of all intelligent boxing fans, as confimed by most boxing experts out there, JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ took Manny Pacquiao back to school... TWICE!!

THIS IS WHAT BOXING EXPERTS AND INTERNATIONAL JUDGES THINK ABOUT THE MARQUEZ-PACQUIAO ii FIGHT:

- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene. com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing. com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds. com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook. com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience. com: 114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar: Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa: Marquez in both fights

- Darius Ortiz, ESPN. com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN. com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News. com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing. com:114-113 Marquez

- Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-113 Marquez
- Nonito Donaire: 114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Eduardo Lamazón, TV Azteca: 114-113 Marquez
- Associated Press: 114-113 Marquez
- Judge Benjamin Rendon: 115-113
- Ernesto Castellanos; ESTO: 115-114 Marquez
- Perea & Rendon, Notifight: 115-113 Marquez
- Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight.

COMPUBOX RESULTS - MARQUEZ-PACQUIAO II

TOTAL PUNCHES: Landed- 172 JMM, 157 MP; Thrown- 511 JMM, 619 MP; Pct. 34% JMM, 25% MP.
JABS: Landed-42 JMM, 43 MP; Thrown- 201 JMM; 314 MP; Pct. 21%JMM, 14% MP.
POWER PUNCHES: Landed-130 JMM, 114 MP; Thrown- 310 JMM, 305 MP; Pct. 42% JMM, 37% MP.

Overall winner: Juan Manuel Marquez

Pacquiao won the judges' nod based largely on the third-round knockdown, but the CompuBox statistics backed Marquez's assertion that he should have gotten the nod. Though Marquez threw 108 fewer punches (619-511), he landed 15 more (172-157) overall, and the 34-year-old Mexican also amassed a 16-punch edge in power connects (130-114) while throwing just five more (310-305). The only category Pacquiao out-did Marquez was in connected jabs (43-42), but the challenger had to throw 113 more of them (314-201) to do so.

Speaking of damage done, if one broke down solely the power connect totals Marquez would have emerged with the 6-5-1 edge. Marquez won the second (12-9), fifth (10-4), sixth (14-13), seventh (12-8), eighth (15-5) and 12th rounds (15-10) while Pacquiao captured the first (8-4), third (9-7), fourth (13-9), ninth (11-9) and 11th rounds (11-10) while the 10th round was even at 13

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[Franco2012]

Pacquiao will KO 1 Marquez if Marquez stop coming up with insane 50/50 demands!

It should be 80/20 split and fight at 147!

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i think manny still has nightmares about dinamita

[Gutz]

Manny kills JMM at this point..


But I would rather see JMM get money then Margocheato...

[trainhard_187]

More like Marquez cant sleep without dreaming of Pacquiao..

I hope they make this fight so Marquez could get spanked into retirement..

[Chups]

Old topic...as usual the threadstarter is very biased................here's an unbiased scorecards.


Doug Fischer of maxboxing.com - 114-114 Draw
http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/Fischer031708.asp

Brad Cooney of Cooney Entertainment - Draw

http://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=95526

Harold Lederman of HBO (not his article but mentioned in it) - 115-112 for Pacquiao
http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...beats-marquez/

Dan Rafael of espn.com – 114-113 for Marquez

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=3296049

Steve Kim of maxboxing.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao
http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim031708.asp

The Arizona Republic – 114-113 for Marquez

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/0317*************0317.html

Jeff Haney of Las Vegas Sun - 114-113 for Pacquiao
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...ng-title-bout/

Ricardo Lois of ******************.com – 115-112 for Marquez
http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4125

Michael Marley of ******************.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao
http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4132

SC of badlefthook.com – 114-113 for Marquez

http://www.badlefthook.com/story/2008/3/16/463/75851

Ace Freeman of fightfan.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao

http://fightfan.com/?p=101

Victor Perea of *********.com - 115-113 for Marquez
http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIG...ao-marquez.htm

‘Undisputed’ of doghouseboxing.com – 115-114 for Pacquiao

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Round031508.htm

Bart Barry of 15rounds.com – 115-113 for Marquez
http://15rounds.com/Columns/bbarry/aggressor-031708.php

Ben Thompson of fighthype.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content2220.html

Tim Starks of mvn - 114-113 for Marquez

http://mvn.com/boxing/2008/03/17/the-tragedy-of-juan-manuel-marquez-the-transformation-of-manny-pacquiao/

Aaron Jones of *********.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao
http://www.*********.com/article_detail.php?AT=603

[Franco2012]

More like Marquez cant sleep without dreaming of Pacquiao..

I hope they make this fight so Marquez could get spanked into retirement..

Exactly

****** JMM is talking about Pacquiao non stop!


But he actually doesnt want to fight Pacquiao.

When he was offered a third fight he wanted 50/50 split and OST like Floyd wanted against Pacman and now he says he will fight 147 pounder Pacquiao at 140-143!

[Deevel916]

If Marquez were able to stay on his feet without getting knocked down in both fights, he would have been victorious on both occasions. Truth is, Marquez won more rounds than Pac over 24 rounds, it was his inability to stay on his feet that cost him.

[RichardP]

I think Marquez is a bigger risk then marg